The 951 question...
07-04-2009, 06:47 PM
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I find it inspirational and humorous to read a few of these posts. I've always liked the 944. I was dying to have one back in high school, when a friend's dad had a pretty well modified 951. Thing was very very quick. Got into college and found a couple other guys that loved them. I built numerous ones on video games and fantasized what it would be like to pilot a 951 down the back stretch at Laguna Seca or out at the Nurburgring.
Then I got one! I was so stoked. Called a few friends and I instantly had one of the coolest, iconic sports cars from the 80's and surrounding era's. I get looks from everyone in this thing. Out on Friday nights, I'm that "guy with the Porsh." lol. It's great. The car has an aura around it, and I've come to realize that only the people that wish they had a car half as cool or quick as a front-engined Porsche, are the ones that like to call names and jeer me for my car.
Overall, I'd say that this car is going to be in my possession for a long while. Paying it off won't be hard, or take long. There are other cars I could have gotten, but for the price, I'd say this thing can't be beat!
Then I got one! I was so stoked. Called a few friends and I instantly had one of the coolest, iconic sports cars from the 80's and surrounding era's. I get looks from everyone in this thing. Out on Friday nights, I'm that "guy with the Porsh." lol. It's great. The car has an aura around it, and I've come to realize that only the people that wish they had a car half as cool or quick as a front-engined Porsche, are the ones that like to call names and jeer me for my car.
Overall, I'd say that this car is going to be in my possession for a long while. Paying it off won't be hard, or take long. There are other cars I could have gotten, but for the price, I'd say this thing can't be beat!
07-06-2009, 03:31 AM
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The easiest way to convert some one is hand them your keys.THEN THEY GET WHAT WE FEEL A true drivers car I don't even have ABS and I like it that way.It's a feel in your *** thats connect ed to the car that just feels great.I'll always own one.
07-06-2009, 11:23 AM
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However, the car is inexpensive to buy and there are a large number of upgrades available to bring out the engineer and hot rodder in all of us. This is what makes the car fun. (Not to mention the nostalga factor).
I would never use a 951 as a daily driver, but it is a wonderful toy for people who like to work on cars or want a dedicated car for the track. (I can't see risking a $60k BMW that is relied on for everyday transportation on the track.)
I have handed my wife the keys of my 951 and she refused to drive it. The 951 is too antiquated and unrefined. (More time for me to play, anyway.). The Mercedes she drives is pretty incredible in terms of both power and handling.
07-06-2009, 11:35 AM
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I think it is all what you are used to and what you grew up with. Compared to the American Iron I grew up with these cars are a dream. Myself, I wouldn't even dare to compare it to a brand new car.. another 80's or earlier car, not much comes close IMO.
IMO these cars not suited well for younger owners unless they have a beater or other DD. They are very fun to tinker with as Chris said .. That is what makes them appealing to me.
IMO these cars not suited well for younger owners unless they have a beater or other DD. They are very fun to tinker with as Chris said .. That is what makes them appealing to me.
07-06-2009, 11:44 AM
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This will probably draw a number of boos and hisses, but the 951 is a 25 year old car. In my opinion, the 951 shows its age and it doesn't compare well against modern Porsches, BMWs and Mercedes. Modern computer technology used both in the design process and in control systems has revolutionized the performance automotive industry. None of this was available when the 951 was created.
I have handed my wife the keys of my 951 and she refused to drive it. The 951 is too antiquated and unrefined. (More time for me to play, anyway.). The Mercedes she drives is pretty incredible in terms of both power and handling.
I have handed my wife the keys of my 951 and she refused to drive it. The 951 is too antiquated and unrefined. (More time for me to play, anyway.). The Mercedes she drives is pretty incredible in terms of both power and handling.
Reality is that computers are much better than humans at many things. We should all give up on manuals and switch to automatics, fully computer controlled throttles (very common) and fully computer controlled brakes (coming very soon – radar based versions already available on MBs…). Almost all high end sports cars have stability management to control handling - in fact the latest generation of stability control in Porsches cannot be completely turned off. If you turn it off and the car senses that you are in trouble it will turn itself back on…
Yep, just like refined sugars…kinda tastes sweet but in the end the driver becomes kinda fat and dumb….just poke at a pedal and let the car figure it out.
Might as well just be a computer game….
07-06-2009, 12:00 PM
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Isn't that a good thing in a daily driver? The benefits are improved reliabilty, comfort, safety, pollution and gas mileadge. Save the 951 for weekend playing where the goal is to enjoy the driving experience rather than getting from point A to point B.
07-06-2009, 12:06 PM
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Out of curiousity, if Porsche were to create a new release of the 951 in 2010 like the Camaro and Challenger, what would it look like?
- 2.0 L 300hp/300tq motor with a flat torque curve
- Significantly improved handling
- Better ride
- 34 mpg
- 25% lower emissions
- Improved safety (traction control, air bags all around, anti-lock breaks, better crumple zones, other)
- No service for 100k miles
- Sleeker looking body rather than the 1970s 924 look
- Higher quality interior
I doubt Porsche would ever do this since there is not a much of a market, but I would like to see such a car.
- 2.0 L 300hp/300tq motor with a flat torque curve
- Significantly improved handling
- Better ride
- 34 mpg
- 25% lower emissions
- Improved safety (traction control, air bags all around, anti-lock breaks, better crumple zones, other)
- No service for 100k miles
- Sleeker looking body rather than the 1970s 924 look
- Higher quality interior
I doubt Porsche would ever do this since there is not a much of a market, but I would like to see such a car.
07-06-2009, 01:00 PM
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signfiicantly better handling ??? like what ??
ther rear end is a bit dated for 16 tires ..
as we saw the other day in pats video all the apparent technolgy and wisardry cant realy over come the phisics of changing a big vector as the car is near 2 tonne
I'd prefer to see a drivers car again and for it to be offered in a cs or RS spec that was realy lacking in the 951 so light manual seats manual windows optional cage ..
and from engine rear transaxle but use the vw R32 engine to continue the mongrel sports car fasion.
while materials and manufacturing technolagy get better I'm simply descusted that genrally speaking a sports car wieghs 50% more these days than it did in the 80's ..
Back to basics please the auto indusry has realy become coftable complacent and un inspired and thats part of the reason its on the bones of its **** now .
ther rear end is a bit dated for 16 tires ..
as we saw the other day in pats video all the apparent technolgy and wisardry cant realy over come the phisics of changing a big vector as the car is near 2 tonne
I'd prefer to see a drivers car again and for it to be offered in a cs or RS spec that was realy lacking in the 951 so light manual seats manual windows optional cage ..
and from engine rear transaxle but use the vw R32 engine to continue the mongrel sports car fasion.
while materials and manufacturing technolagy get better I'm simply descusted that genrally speaking a sports car wieghs 50% more these days than it did in the 80's ..
Back to basics please the auto indusry has realy become coftable complacent and un inspired and thats part of the reason its on the bones of its **** now .