No Reserve: Porsche 911 17×7.5″ and 17×9″ Cup 1 Wheels
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No Reserve: Porsche 911 17×7.5″ and 17×9″ Cup 1 Wheels
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The classic set of wheels for any 964. This auction should be fun to watch (no affiliation)
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The classic set of wheels for any 964. This auction should be fun to watch (no affiliation)
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...911-carrera-7/
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Can someone with explain to me if these are real or replicas?
Someone please correct me if im wrong.
The info i got when identifiying real cups is..
-wheel spec is shown near the valve stem.
-964/965 part # stamped in the back.
-“SM” manufacturer stamp in the back.
The sizing in 17s offered by porsche were only 17x7/8/9/9.5. Is this correct? (Not 17x7.5)
And are oem cups really made in Italy?
I hope someone that is a cup wheel guru can shed some light.
Someone please correct me if im wrong.
The info i got when identifiying real cups is..
-wheel spec is shown near the valve stem.
-964/965 part # stamped in the back.
-“SM” manufacturer stamp in the back.
The sizing in 17s offered by porsche were only 17x7/8/9/9.5. Is this correct? (Not 17x7.5)
And are oem cups really made in Italy?
I hope someone that is a cup wheel guru can shed some light.
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These look legit. 17X7.5 +65 was the sport wheel option on 968's. I know guys run these on 964's, but not sure of spacer details. I'd think 10mm would be a good start.
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these are legit
cup 1's were sourced by porsche from speedline in italy
later mille miglia, another italian wheel maker, started making reps... the mm's are good reps but heavier --- although the 'real' cup 1 by speedline are hardly light for a 17
one of the improvements porsche purposely made going to the 993 gen was to have a lighter more modern (though still cast) standard wheel - the cup 2
cup 1's were sourced by porsche from speedline in italy
later mille miglia, another italian wheel maker, started making reps... the mm's are good reps but heavier --- although the 'real' cup 1 by speedline are hardly light for a 17
one of the improvements porsche purposely made going to the 993 gen was to have a lighter more modern (though still cast) standard wheel - the cup 2
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I just posted info on BaT and they are legit. You can run as much as a 15 mm spacer up front if you want. I run 8 & 9's on my C2 no spacers. The 8's run 16mm further out than the 7's the 7.5's run 4mm inboard.
As I stated i sold all but a couple of sets I owned for years. In refurbished condition sold them for between $3250 and $3750 for 7&9 and 7&8's the 7&8's are harder to come by and sell for more in this condition. the set I sold for $3250 was flipped by the buyer for $3900. Not sure what 7.5's will bring as they are an odd size but you have three models they work on so I expect at least close to what I sold mine for. BTW prices did not include actual shipping.
The 00's are made by Speedline. There are 7&8 sizes made by SM in Germany carrying the 01 suffix. They look identical to the 00 version from the front but look very different from the side back. I posted pics someplace of them side by side.
As I stated i sold all but a couple of sets I owned for years. In refurbished condition sold them for between $3250 and $3750 for 7&9 and 7&8's the 7&8's are harder to come by and sell for more in this condition. the set I sold for $3250 was flipped by the buyer for $3900. Not sure what 7.5's will bring as they are an odd size but you have three models they work on so I expect at least close to what I sold mine for. BTW prices did not include actual shipping.
The 00's are made by Speedline. There are 7&8 sizes made by SM in Germany carrying the 01 suffix. They look identical to the 00 version from the front but look very different from the side back. I posted pics someplace of them side by side.
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I have a set of 8 and 9s on the way for my C2 but need to get some tires. What tire sizes did you run on that setup? No issues with rubbing and the 8 ET52 wheel up front?
Have any pictures of your setup? I'd like to see how flush the wheels are with the fenders.
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I have one set I use for AX. So it is not a good comparison. I am actually running 235/255's I would not run these on the street but I wanted more bite up front and less grip in the rear which works nicely for Ax but not for street driving. You could probably run 235/275 if you can find the right dia and tire.
Unfortunately this is the only picture I can locate at this time with the cup's on.
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I just posted info on BaT and they are legit. You can run as much as a 15 mm spacer up front if you want. I run 8 & 9's on my C2 no spacers. The 8's run 16mm further out than the 7's the 7.5's run 4mm inboard.
As I stated i sold all but a couple of sets I owned for years. In refurbished condition sold them for between $3250 and $3750 for 7&9 and 7&8's the 7&8's are harder to come by and sell for more in this condition. the set I sold for $3250 was flipped by the buyer for $3900. Not sure what 7.5's will bring as they are an odd size but you have three models they work on so I expect at least close to what I sold mine for. BTW prices did not include actual shipping.
The 00's are made by Speedline. There are 7&8 sizes made by SM in Germany carrying the 01 suffix. They look identical to the 00 version from the front but look very different from the side back. I posted pics someplace of them side by side.
As I stated i sold all but a couple of sets I owned for years. In refurbished condition sold them for between $3250 and $3750 for 7&9 and 7&8's the 7&8's are harder to come by and sell for more in this condition. the set I sold for $3250 was flipped by the buyer for $3900. Not sure what 7.5's will bring as they are an odd size but you have three models they work on so I expect at least close to what I sold mine for. BTW prices did not include actual shipping.
The 00's are made by Speedline. There are 7&8 sizes made by SM in Germany carrying the 01 suffix. They look identical to the 00 version from the front but look very different from the side back. I posted pics someplace of them side by side.
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Yes, but...
There is a TSB that talks about 17" fitments. Porsche recommends that there be steering stops added, and also a small bit of machining to the fender/bumper joint.
I run MM's 17 x 7.5 with 205 road tires, and I do get a bit of inner fender rub at full lock. I have done the machining bit, but not the steering stops.
YMMV.
There is a TSB that talks about 17" fitments. Porsche recommends that there be steering stops added, and also a small bit of machining to the fender/bumper joint.
I run MM's 17 x 7.5 with 205 road tires, and I do get a bit of inner fender rub at full lock. I have done the machining bit, but not the steering stops.
YMMV.
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Yes, but...
There is a TSB that talks about 17" fitments. Porsche recommends that there be steering stops added, and also a small bit of machining to the fender/bumper joint.
I run MM's 17 x 7.5 with 205 road tires, and I do get a bit of inner fender rub at full lock. I have done the machining bit, but not the steering stops.
YMMV.
There is a TSB that talks about 17" fitments. Porsche recommends that there be steering stops added, and also a small bit of machining to the fender/bumper joint.
I run MM's 17 x 7.5 with 205 road tires, and I do get a bit of inner fender rub at full lock. I have done the machining bit, but not the steering stops.
YMMV.