964 RS is it worth having?
01-18-2024, 09:25 PM
#226
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race
They do another race on track which consisted also of a Nissan Skyline GTR R32, Mazda FD RX-7, Mitsubishi 3000GT, and an automatic 928 GTS. This is in addition to the other 3 cars in the videos above.
https://youtu.be/JhOtxOD_OP4?feature=shared
https://youtu.be/JhOtxOD_OP4?feature=shared
01-19-2024, 09:22 AM
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Money can build anything. If I didn't spend so much time effort and money converting my C2 I would have bought an RS or a cup car. The only thing I need to address next is the gearbox. The addition of 993 components + custom MCS, bushings, brakes etc along with slick top has actually improved the handling of my C2 to a level I consider better than a stock RS but not by all that much and look how many years and man hours it took to do so. I also need power steering my arthritis won't allow me to drive the manual rack cars anymore. 
. Any 964 has the potential to be a great drivers car some came that way from the factory. 
. Any 964 has the potential to be a great drivers car some came that way from the factory. Bought a perfect C2. Then proceeded to go down the modding rabbit hole one step at a time. First it was the suspension overall. Which trickles into a big red brake upgrade with 993 RS uprights. Then the car gods bless me with metal in my oil pan, which now is leading towards a 3.8 with regear. The pain....
I should have just bought a RS
01-19-2024, 09:36 AM
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God this hit home.
Bought a perfect C2. Then proceeded to go down the modding rabbit hole one step at a time. First it was the suspension overall. Which trickles into a big red brake upgrade with 993 RS uprights. Then the car gods bless me with metal in my oil pan, which now is leading towards a 3.8 with regear. The pain....
I should have just bought a RS
Bought a perfect C2. Then proceeded to go down the modding rabbit hole one step at a time. First it was the suspension overall. Which trickles into a big red brake upgrade with 993 RS uprights. Then the car gods bless me with metal in my oil pan, which now is leading towards a 3.8 with regear. The pain....
I should have just bought a RS
Although i would love 2swoosh's Cup car. BTW I had gone up against NSX's in my C2 years ago and they always were left behind. Had a skyline loose it in front of me up at Bear Mtn just couldn't handle like the C2 and my 928GTS 5 speed will toast any of these cars off the line and from any speed up. Those old videos are entertaining but far from Scientific.
01-19-2024, 10:13 AM
#229
^^ It's all a wash. Buying an RS doesn't make you immune to engine failures or suspension refreshes. It just makes you feel guilty about improving anything from stock....evenm if stock is not bad...these are over 30 years old now.
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01-19-2024, 11:44 AM
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https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/...964-carrera-rs
01-19-2024, 12:07 PM
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https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/...964-carrera-rs
01-19-2024, 12:29 PM
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Burning Brakes
This, my C2 with all the mods drives A LOT better than a stock RS.
01-20-2024, 07:31 AM
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Crystal Silver Macau Clubsport. Same car that sold on BaT last June. Person who bought it then said he had two of these and an ‘88 Clubsport which he bought from Ray Joseph which is also now listed with Canepa.
Current listing:
https://canepa.com/photo-gallery/199...arrera-rs7049/
Previous BaT listing from June 2023 (sold for $300k):
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...arrera-rs-5-2/
Current listing:
https://canepa.com/photo-gallery/199...arrera-rs7049/
Previous BaT listing from June 2023 (sold for $300k):
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...arrera-rs-5-2/
01-21-2024, 10:41 AM
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Rubystone German-market RS on BaT. Shows 91k km (57k miles).
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...carrera-rs-18/
Has to be clean car as the listing states it has a clean Carfax. First entry on it goes as far back as 16 days ago.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...carrera-rs-18/
Has to be clean car as the listing states it has a clean Carfax. First entry on it goes as far back as 16 days ago.
01-24-2024, 09:59 PM
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Crystal Silver Macau Clubsport. Same car that sold on BaT last June. Person who bought it then said he had two of these and an ‘88 Clubsport which he bought from Ray Joseph which is also now listed with Canepa.
Current listing:
https://canepa.com/photo-gallery/199...arrera-rs7049/
Previous BaT listing from June 2023 (sold for $300k):
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...arrera-rs-5-2/
Current listing:
https://canepa.com/photo-gallery/199...arrera-rs7049/
Previous BaT listing from June 2023 (sold for $300k):
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...arrera-rs-5-2/
The 964 RS Macau car we are asking $465k. The work to be done to the car is as follows:
-Fully inspected and serviced by our shop here at Canepa. All systems will be checked and serviced. Anything and everything that the car needs will be done prior to customer delivery.
-We will perform a full Concours level detail on the car. Take the wheels off, wash the underside by hand with sap and water.
-Bruce is going to repaint the hood, he already found a perfect color match, just from age.
I would try not to frame the car and the price based on past sales, but more on what the value of the car will be in the future. When it comes to the really rare and collectible cars, sometimes they seem expensive in the moment, but then in retrospect, years down the line, they seem like a bargain. This car as you know is incredibly rare and special and has all the hallmarks of a car that has strong value growth ahead of it. It's an opportunity I wouldn't want to miss. Let me know if you have any other questions or if there is anything else that I can do to help and I would love to do business with you.
01-24-2024, 10:01 PM
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Rubystone German-market RS on BaT. Shows 91k km (57k miles).
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...carrera-rs-18/
Has to be clean car as the listing states it has a clean Carfax. First entry on it goes as far back as 16 days ago.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...carrera-rs-18/
Has to be clean car as the listing states it has a clean Carfax. First entry on it goes as far back as 16 days ago.
01-24-2024, 10:07 PM
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If anyone is interested in letting go of their RS or RS N/GT please dm as I am actively looking! Sold my 85' 930 long ago to fund my business and finally back in the market for an air-cooled again.
01-25-2024, 12:04 AM
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They are asking $465k on the car. Asked what work they've done to warrant given the amount it sold for last year and this was the response:
The 964 RS Macau car we are asking $465k. The work to be done to the car is as follows:
-Fully inspected and serviced by our shop here at Canepa. All systems will be checked and serviced. Anything and everything that the car needs will be done prior to customer delivery.
-We will perform a full Concours level detail on the car. Take the wheels off, wash the underside by hand with sap and water.
-Bruce is going to repaint the hood, he already found a perfect color match, just from age.
I would try not to frame the car and the price based on past sales, but more on what the value of the car will be in the future. When it comes to the really rare and collectible cars, sometimes they seem expensive in the moment, but then in retrospect, years down the line, they seem like a bargain. This car as you know is incredibly rare and special and has all the hallmarks of a car that has strong value growth ahead of it. It's an opportunity I wouldn't want to miss. Let me know if you have any other questions or if there is anything else that I can do to help and I would love to do business with you.
The 964 RS Macau car we are asking $465k. The work to be done to the car is as follows:
-Fully inspected and serviced by our shop here at Canepa. All systems will be checked and serviced. Anything and everything that the car needs will be done prior to customer delivery.
-We will perform a full Concours level detail on the car. Take the wheels off, wash the underside by hand with sap and water.
-Bruce is going to repaint the hood, he already found a perfect color match, just from age.
I would try not to frame the car and the price based on past sales, but more on what the value of the car will be in the future. When it comes to the really rare and collectible cars, sometimes they seem expensive in the moment, but then in retrospect, years down the line, they seem like a bargain. This car as you know is incredibly rare and special and has all the hallmarks of a car that has strong value growth ahead of it. It's an opportunity I wouldn't want to miss. Let me know if you have any other questions or if there is anything else that I can do to help and I would love to do business with you.
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01-25-2024, 09:09 AM
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The 964 RS Macau car we are asking $465k.
I would try not to frame the car and the price based on past sales, but more on what the value of the car will be in the future. When it comes to the really rare and collectible cars, sometimes they seem expensive in the moment, but then in retrospect, years down the line, they seem like a bargain. This car as you know is incredibly rare and special and has all the hallmarks of a car that has strong value growth ahead of it. It's an opportunity I wouldn't want to miss.
I would try not to frame the car and the price based on past sales, but more on what the value of the car will be in the future. When it comes to the really rare and collectible cars, sometimes they seem expensive in the moment, but then in retrospect, years down the line, they seem like a bargain. This car as you know is incredibly rare and special and has all the hallmarks of a car that has strong value growth ahead of it. It's an opportunity I wouldn't want to miss.
I think the car undersold on BaT at $300k, but $465k is a big ask even with the “Canepa difference” factored in. Usually consists of a throughly documented inspection, detail, service, and some light restoration work. Sometimes they may get away with just an inspection as the car doesn’t need anything, but still got the “Canepa difference”.
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01-25-2024, 10:16 AM
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I think if it was a private seller (or another dealer) and gave this reason for overpricing a car they would get laughed at to the point of pulling the listing or having to shut down the business. I understand paying top dollar for a top 1% all original and/or number 1 condition car. However, pricing based on what the future value maybe and discounting past sales is one of the dumbest reasons I’ve ever heard.
I think the car undersold on BaT at $300k, but $465k is a big ask even with the “Canepa difference” factored in. Usually consists of a throughly documented inspection, detail, service, and some light restoration work. Sometimes they may get away with just an inspection as the car doesn’t need anything, but still got the “Canepa difference”.
I think the car undersold on BaT at $300k, but $465k is a big ask even with the “Canepa difference” factored in. Usually consists of a throughly documented inspection, detail, service, and some light restoration work. Sometimes they may get away with just an inspection as the car doesn’t need anything, but still got the “Canepa difference”.
I actually thought that they were going to ask more than 465 so I did not even bother reaching out. I do like the red one from the link above.