Carbon Ceramic Brakes?
#1
Three Wheelin'
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Carbon Ceramic Brakes?
Maybe going off the deep end here but has anyone done a CCM setup for our cars front and rear? I know Singers have them but would otherwise be interested to hear if anyone has done this independently.
#3
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Phil Morrison from drift works in the UK was able to fit a set. He has a video on his YouTube about it. If I recall correctly it only took some custom adapters
#5
There is not a kit as such available for the 964. Closest is tuthills 993RSk package that’s 20k…but you need the RS master cylinder as well.
997.1 GT3 RS sizes work so the surface transform discs for that car could be an option…
there is Wolfe on here I think (NB TT) and a silver NB YouTube car that has them.
I want some and am exploring…
997.1 GT3 RS sizes work so the surface transform discs for that car could be an option…
there is Wolfe on here I think (NB TT) and a silver NB YouTube car that has them.
I want some and am exploring…
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#8
More that the sizes of the carbon brake discs themselves can work - not many suppliers of CCBs OEM brakes under 350mm. You would need custom mounting hardware everywhere and callipers etc. there isn’t a kit or a well tested parts list for this mod…it will be tricky. Check out the drift works YT vid for inspiration.
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I think 997 GT3 PCCB fronts are 380mm, which can maybe fit under 18s?
Regular 997 / 987 / 981 PCCB fronts are 350mm, which are easier to fit on the 964
Regular 997 / 987 / 981 PCCB fronts are 350mm, which are easier to fit on the 964
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Curious what would fuel the desire for CCB's on a 964 other than weight savings - which I can understand. I also love the look of CCB's, so I can understand that as well.
I have 993tt rotors / calipers on my 964 and find it difficult to understand how more stopping force would be required for a road car?
I have 993tt rotors / calipers on my 964 and find it difficult to understand how more stopping force would be required for a road car?
#11
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I think it would be for weight savings, no brake dust, looks, and bragging rights.
I don't think you can put enough tire on a 964 to need more than RS brakes or Big Reds.
I don't think you can put enough tire on a 964 to need more than RS brakes or Big Reds.
#13
If you really want to burn $20k, I can send you an account to wire the funds to.
But seriously, I don't think these cars with these performance envelopes can come close to "needing" PCCBs. I've owned a few GT3s over the years, both with and without PCCBs and I've tracked all of those cars and I'm decently fast (you'd probably call me on the lower end of advanced) around a track and even with the far higher grip levels due to tire and aero and the obviously far higher speeds the cars are capable of and I haven't "needed" them over the steel brakes. With the right fluid, lines, pads and rotors, the steels can handle a full session without fade. So upgrading to big reds or RS brakes would be as far as I would take a 964 unless your main motivation is bling in which case, they're at least cooler than other blingy ways of spending money.
Also worth adding - there are drawbacks to PCCBs on the street as well. They tend to squeal much worse than steels do, they function horribly when cold (try driving on a wet freeway for 30 mins and let me know how it feels when you come to an offramp and have no brakes until you pump the hell out of them) and they are obviously very expensive should any damage occur and replacements are needed.
But seriously, I don't think these cars with these performance envelopes can come close to "needing" PCCBs. I've owned a few GT3s over the years, both with and without PCCBs and I've tracked all of those cars and I'm decently fast (you'd probably call me on the lower end of advanced) around a track and even with the far higher grip levels due to tire and aero and the obviously far higher speeds the cars are capable of and I haven't "needed" them over the steel brakes. With the right fluid, lines, pads and rotors, the steels can handle a full session without fade. So upgrading to big reds or RS brakes would be as far as I would take a 964 unless your main motivation is bling in which case, they're at least cooler than other blingy ways of spending money.
Also worth adding - there are drawbacks to PCCBs on the street as well. They tend to squeal much worse than steels do, they function horribly when cold (try driving on a wet freeway for 30 mins and let me know how it feels when you come to an offramp and have no brakes until you pump the hell out of them) and they are obviously very expensive should any damage occur and replacements are needed.