Flag mirrors gone - welcome Vitaloni Sebring Mach 1 Mirror

911Jetta · 11-06-2009, 01:15 PM

A stock, well-maintained 911 is a wonderful thing. At the same time I'm a big fan of anything Porsche Motorsport, and I think 964s look great with some hotrod touches, RGruppe style.

I like the aero mirrors but they cost a lot and need to be painted, plus I think they look a little too big on a narrow body coupe (I wish they were 7/8 size). It's a standard upgrade, but that's too easy...

In looking at pictures of old RSRs I noticed this cool looking little mirror called Vitaloni Sebring and wondered if it could replace my flag mirror? Unfortunately there are a bunch of holes in the door hidden by the mirror base (so Ruf scoop mirrors are out also). Sitting on the door, the V. Sebring mirror body looked too small to cover the holes after installation?

Then I saw a picture of a PS Autoart backdated 964, that car had a mirror base similar to a stock car, but it had a small, retro, round mirror on top. Maybe I could mount the Sebring mirror ontop of the flag mirror base? Well, after some fabrication it turned out just as I'd hoped! I actually prefer to have the mirror sit on the flag base, as it raises the mirror up above the door curve and now the mirror sits flat, instead of following the door body.

I think it has a very nice subtle retro look that most people wouldn't notice at all, and some Porschephiles might smile acknowledging the unique rading of Porsche's motorsports parts bin... It's a different look on a 964, but it's a mirror that is part of Porshe's history so I think the styles all ties together nicely?

I mounted the mirrors last night and only did a quick drive down the road to take some pictures this morning, so they aren't fully adjusted. I have a direct line of sight to both mirrors, but visibility is reduced... I can live with it! Getting rid of the flags means the car is a couple inches narrower, so the car looks even smaller!

More pictures here:

http://picasaweb.google.com/udoreisi...italoniMirror#

Mirrors purchased from:
http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/pro...asp?RecID=1553

Nine11 · 11-06-2009, 01:17 PM

Where did you get those?

911Jetta · 11-06-2009, 03:04 PM

More pictures here:
http://picasaweb.google.com/udoreisi...italoniMirror#

Mirrors purchased from:
http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/pro...asp?RecID=1553

Busta Rib · 11-06-2009, 03:57 PM

Nice find. They look good.

Indycam · 11-06-2009, 10:36 PM

Do you still have the old flag parts ?

Kahdmus · 11-06-2009, 11:02 PM

Remind me of small mickey mouse ears...

raspberryroadster · 11-06-2009, 11:39 PM

this is a nice installation - looks fine indeed & far superior to 'flags'.

groovzilla · 11-07-2009, 12:13 AM

i think they look stupid...

the aero mirrors look much better

Nine11 · 11-07-2009, 12:16 AM

They have a lot of racing character....very streamline and looks good on a narrow body. Not sure but on a widebody, they'd be like hippo ears.

mojo747 · 11-07-2009, 09:35 AM

Seems popular with the racing set, and the flat color looks good as well. Next to those the flags look like a drive in movie. I dig that about flags.

GeorgeK · 11-07-2009, 10:07 AM

The Vitalonis are in fact the origin of the so-called Ruf mirrors. Except Ruf did not invent them. The factory put the Vitalonis on the fixed quarter windows of the 935, Then the design evolved into some streamlining to better fit the door/window frames. Ruf indeed adopted the mirror for their creations, most famous being the Yellowbird.

One small trick: take the mirror out, buy a wide angle (convex) generic mirror from a truck parts shop and ask a glass shop to cut it the correct shape. Presto! wide angle Vitalonis, that aford a wider angle than the original flags.

warmfuzzies · 11-07-2009, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by groovzilla

i think they look stupid...

the aero mirrors look much better

Bit strong, if you like them fine, if you don't fine, but Whoa on the comments.

kevin

Nine11 · 11-07-2009, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeorgeK

The Vitalonis are in fact the origin of the so-called Ruf mirrors. Except Ruf did not invent them. The factory put the Vitalonis on the fixed quarter windows of the 935, Then the design evolved into some streamlining to better fit the door/window frames. Ruf indeed adopted the mirror for their creations, most famous being the Yellowbird.

One small trick: take the mirror out, buy a wide angle (convex) generic mirror from a truck parts shop and ask a glass shop to cut it the correct shape. Presto! wide angle Vitalonis, that aford a wider angle than the original flags.

You can buy them with a wide mirror from Pegasus.

Matt Lane · 11-07-2009, 07:21 PM

Shrek side mirrors! I like 'em!

Matt

gr1275 · 11-08-2009, 12:48 PM

I saw these yesterday and they look better in person in that you can see how they blend into the car nicely. If you don't focus on the mirror, they are actually disappear and free up the lines and look of the door. IMO very nice touch!
The concave mod souds trick. A panorama interior mirror or a Wink might help as well.

11-06-2009, 03:57 PM	#4
Busta Rib Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Seattle WA Posts: 211	Nice find. They look good. __________________ 1994 C4 Grand Prix White/Cashmere

11-07-2009, 12:13 AM	#8
groovzilla Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: seattle, washington Posts: 486	i think they look stupid... the aero mirrors look much better __________________ william - 1990 964 C2 coupe.....silver/black - 1959 356A super sunroof...silver/black 1995 993 C2 - polar silver/black - 6 speed - upgraded motor mounts - short shift kit - M030 lowering kit....sold 2009 1996 993 carrera 4 ...........polar silver/black...sold 2008 1979 ferrari 308 ...............red/black...sold...sold 2006 1986-2005...lots of 356's and 911's

11-07-2009, 09:35 AM	#10
mojo747 Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Alabama Posts: 307	Seems popular with the racing set, and the flat color looks good as well. Next to those the flags look like a drive in movie. I dig that about flags. __________________ 1991 Midnight Blue C2 Flaggers Unite!

11-07-2009, 10:07 AM	#11
GeorgeK Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 344	The Vitalonis are in fact the origin of the so-called Ruf mirrors. Except Ruf did not invent them. The factory put the Vitalonis on the fixed quarter windows of the 935, Then the design evolved into some streamlining to better fit the door/window frames. Ruf indeed adopted the mirror for their creations, most famous being the Yellowbird. One small trick: take the mirror out, buy a wide angle (convex) generic mirror from a truck parts shop and ask a glass shop to cut it the correct shape. Presto! wide angle Vitalonis, that aford a wider angle than the original flags. __________________ GeorgeK '89 C4 Codename Shrek

11-07-2009, 07:21 PM	#14
Matt Lane Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Montreal, QC Posts: 467	Shrek side mirrors! I like 'em! Matt __________________ 1997 993 Carrera Arctissilbermetallic - She's a work in process... Factory LSD, Supercups. DAS bar and Euro GT3 seats to install ROW M030 Springs and TT Sways w/ Bilstein HD's, RS Strut Brace Chief Officer of Destruction, Mayhem and Tom-Foolery, Who-Style

11-06-2009, 01:17 PM	#2
Nine11 User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 862	Where did you get those?

11-06-2009, 10:36 PM	#5
Indycam Super User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: not in Santa Cruz Posts: 3,749	Do you still have the old flag parts ?

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Kahdmus Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Pacifica CA. Posts: 3,501	Remind me of small mickey mouse ears...

11-06-2009, 11:39 PM	#7
raspberryroadster Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: vancouver, canada Posts: 275	this is a nice installation - looks fine indeed & far superior to 'flags'.

11-07-2009, 12:16 AM	#9
Nine11 User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 862	They have a lot of racing character....very streamline and looks good on a narrow body. Not sure but on a widebody, they'd be like hippo ears.

11-08-2009, 12:48 PM	#15
gr1275 Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 149	I saw these yesterday and they look better in person in that you can see how they blend into the car nicely. If you don't focus on the mirror, they are actually disappear and free up the lines and look of the door. IMO very nice touch! The concave mod souds trick. A panorama interior mirror or a Wink might help as well.