StephenJ

It is pretty amazing what an absolutely massive amount of press these cars have gotten in the last year. Makes me wonder how much of that price tag goes towards the branding/promotion of Singer vs. actual vehicle development. To be fair, though, it seems like they're still a fairly small company and have to charge exorbitant fees to build each car because every employee they have dedicates a ****load of hours to every one. Makes me wonder if they'll be sustainable in the longrun.

For now I like seeing press on them since they do have a lot of cool ideas to apply to 964s, stuff that I may apply to my own car in the future, albeit on a budget. It'd be interesting to see if they start making cabriolet/speedster models or maybe forced induction cars. I'm sure that's at least a few years away, but still.

Vandit

Besides the bespoke carbon fiber bodywork and use of high-end materials on the trimout/fit/finish, what other development does the car have?

Mechanically, it's very much Porsche parts bin and other well known builders and suppliers that are available to anyone w/ money in hand.

9six4

Singer makes a beautiful car that is put together on a level that it should be for a bespoke spare no expenses project. They are aesthetically pleasing and have an amazing build quality. They are exorbitantly priced, but they wouldn't make them if not for people that can spend that amount on what is a rolling work of art.
As Rob Dickinson has said, he can't afford one of his own cars. (yet)

porschapete91

http://www.streetfire.net/video/top-gear-20x05-20130728_part-1_2433051.htm
He tests a new porsche first then the Singer at 3 min 48 sec in

creaturecat

I thought Jay was great.
Always liked that guy.

ShootingStar

Noise and vibration control. They hired a guy who makes private planes quite to do their noise and vibration stuff. Find a click, fix it, and move on. The placement of the padding and noise dampening stuff was included as well.

911S3.6

what an abortion.

Jaye Bass

I disagree. Jay seems to totally get the Singer. When discussing it during the last scene it was obvious to me that not only did he get the Singer but it looked like he was pondering whether to buy one.

Jaye Bass

Cooling system, well developed suspension pieces, a motorsports quality electrical harness, perfectly judged wheels/tires, steering refinements, shifter refinement, engine work, etc...all of which takes time to get right.

Vandit

The point I keep trying to make on other forums that I'm on (non-Porsche forums), is that you don't need to be a multi-millionaire w/ $500k to blow on a Singer in order to get in on the awesomeness that is a well-sorted, backdated, air-cooled Porsche. Not even close. The formula is basic as hell and small shops and DIYers have been doing it for a long time.

Unless you're the type of person who thinks "exclusivity, bespoke trim-out, impeccable fit and finish, modern GT comfort, aircraft grade insulation" and all kinds of other touchy-feely non-traditional terms when you're envisioning the perfect hot rod air-cooled 911.

Someone on another forum summarized my point well by saying, "give me Jack Olsen's car for a fraction of the price and I'd be just as happy."

Augustomf

I agree with you, I rather have a 964 like yours (which is just gorgeous) and a 991 GT3 to go fast when needed.

The Singer is a statement; I am very, very rich and I want it, that's it.

Jaye Bass

That's the point of the Singer isn't it? To have all that stuff that a small shop cannot hope to deliver. Yes one can get close for less but this car is for people who can afford to have it all in one package. Arguing that one can spend less than a Singer to get less is really not the point. The Singer is a piece of craftsmanship, a work of art that is priced accordingly. Judge it on it's own terms...not in terms of equivalent numbers of used GT3's.

tcsracing1

the Singer represents a restoration and a modification. Updating and backdating. A lot to consider.

A very expensive, labour intensive job.

It may still look just like an ordinary 911 with custom wheels and paint, which is why people scratch their head over the price. But it is more then that.

You would have to had an air cooled 911 restored to a high standard to understand the cost to build one and then to understand what additional modifications and one off parts cost if desired to throw them in on top of the build too.

You just cant go and buy those wheels and headlights for example. everything is high quality and custom built.

The concept of this build is to be an early air cooled 911, but with the latest air cooled 911 technology built into it for over the top performance.

You get your stainless window trim, long nose hood and Fuchs but with coil overs, big brakes and fuel injection!

It is like taking all the best air cooled 911s over the years and building them into one.

Oracle

Not buying it... Singer as a business proposition has the days numbered... At that price they'll run out of stupid rich people soon.
Even RUF, Gembala, etc.. sold stuff by parts not as a whole..
Singer is not an engineering company, just a boutique shop.

Love the cars but the price is not realistic. Slapping the arguably best parts doesn't mean you know what you're doing.

abarthguy

some may not like what they are doing,

but it is evident that they know what they are doing...