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Old 03-31-2014, 08:15 AM
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Hello my name is Filip ,i live in Belgium. After a 951, 968 turbo RS (replica) and now a 997cup car i started to feel the need for a new project.I hope to get as much advice and tips here as i always did on the 944/68 and cup car forum.this is the basis I'm starting from it's a 1993 c2 ,first step will be to strip the car and dip the chassis . Name:  IMG-20140330-WA0005.jpg
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Welcome Filip. You live in the country that is home to our favourite race track which we visit at least once a year to do track days. Hope to meet you there.
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Hi Filip, enjoy the journey. These cars are wonderful platforms.

What class will you be building to?
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nog een belg

The 964 still looks nice, what are the plans
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nog een belg

The 964 still looks nice, what are the plans
not completly decided yet . the car is going to be stripped and is getting a welded rollcage , all fiberglass bodypanels , 993rs spindels , 3way suspension .... I'm stil not sure if i want to make it a widebody i was searching for wheel sizes that wil fit a wide body 964 , and i was wondering how much horsepower you need for a widebody to go fast ...any advice is very welcome.
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Originally Posted by flipo
not completly decided yet . the car is going to be stripped and is getting a welded rollcage , all fiberglass bodypanels , 993rs spindels , 3way suspension .... I'm stil not sure if i want to make it a widebody i was searching for wheel sizes that wil fit a wide body 964 , and i was wondering how much horsepower you need for a widebody to go fast ...any advice is very welcome.
Good fun.

Just had that conversation this morning. I love my car as it is; nimble, light and wonderfully balanced as a narrow body.

We feel that 360 to 370bhp is perfect for my car (currently 335) if it remains narrow. Any more and tire management becomes an issue. (much more and engine management becomes an issue!!!)

On a smaller track, I can run with wide body cars with far more hp as it is.
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@KaiB , What gearbox are you running?(ratio's ,final drive)
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This is my box.

It's worked well, but in a perfect world I'd consider making 2d a bit taller and 4th and 5th a bit shorter.


1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th Final ratio
3.500 2.250 1.684 1.286 1.040 0.000 3.333
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Originally Posted by KaiB
This is my box.

It's worked well, but in a perfect world I'd consider making 2d a bit taller and 4th and 5th a bit shorter.


1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th Final ratio
3.500 2.250 1.684 1.286 1.040 0.000 3.333
what ratio is 6th gear?
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Looking forward to seeing what you do with this.
As Boxsey said, hope to see you at Spa sometime!
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Originally Posted by flipo
what ratio is 6th gear?
Infinite!

(It's a five speed box)

Of course though, all things are not equal. We're I to build up a six speed, I'd use 1.04ish for 6th.

One could build in an active first (say 2.250), but this is a hassle and tough on a tiny clutch.

One must also build around his own engine, its hp and torque curves and his own driving style and needs.

(I typically merely leave the car in one gear and shut my eyes....racing is scary!!!)
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Originally Posted by flipo
not completly decided yet . the car is going to be stripped and is getting a welded rollcage , all fiberglass bodypanels , 993rs spindels , 3way suspension .... I'm stil not sure if i want to make it a widebody i was searching for wheel sizes that wil fit a wide body 964 , and i was wondering how much horsepower you need for a widebody to go fast ...any advice is very welcome.
You could go wider but the factory is usually a good thing to emulate
factory 964 3.8RSR used 9ET48 & 11ET5, the front suspension longitudinals in the outer position and n/b rear suspension arms

On a n/b I've seen 8.5ET50 & 51 and 10ET65 w/ 21mm spacers

If you go for the max wheel/tire width expect to massage the lips


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