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Old 04-24-2014, 07:59 AM
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I've built the 964 I like, not what a future, possible buyer wants. This car is my hobby and my hobby has to be fun. Then it is buit with parts, and with a quality that would work in a future even if the market is smaller for my car compared to a stock car.

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Old 04-24-2014, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by BLACK-BETTY
That sucks. True premium for RS'd 964s here.

I'd say the classic ones are upgraded suspension, RS interior and bucket seats. This along with a freshly rebuilt & mapped engine and paint seems to command £30K +

Add big brakes, engines and you're looking at about £40k give or take depending on how well it's been done and by who.

In our UK 964 enthusiast meets I haven't once seen a stock one - then again we're all a microcosm of the Rennlist modify bug.

Rarely see stock ones and when I do they're always just sightings outside of the enthusiast/ forum/ club base.

Which I guess would indicate that maybe most 964s are owned by enthusiasts who modify them - which would explain why here RS'd ones command a premium...

Would you say that most 964 owners in the States are not of the enthusiast/ Rennlist kind of breed?

If not, could also be that they're is a smaller amount of 964s here and thus the enthusiast concentration is larger?
Rennlist/Pelican owners are probably smaller % of most 911 owners here vs there. There have always been two distinct types. However the air cooled 911 buyer is changing with the marlket, it would appear the rarity of these cars is creating a collectors market vs enthusiasts market and originality is key. Most buyers always wanted clean unmodified cars. Some just like things stock and others wanted original so they can make their own modifications vs what someone else thought was best. Otherwise it was converted for hard core track duty and that usually brought the value down. You may sell for more than clean stock market value but far less than what was invested.

In the past 10 years or so I must have helped well over 50 people find 964 and 965's. In almost every case the buyer expected original paint. Some times it didn't matter if it was in good condition or not so long as it was original. Basic mods were not as much an issue but would not add value to the car. Buyers are nervous a respray may have been done to cover up a bigger issue. We do not have the controls here that you do that document what a car has been through. Everything depends on if a claim was made to the insurance carrier. So it is buyer beware.

Engine mods can work against you. Unless the engine builder is known by the buyer who is to say it was done correctly? There are thousands of dealerships, independent Porsche specialists and Joe "I service every make and model" mechanics along with your shade tree owner rebuilding these engines.

The value of these cars here is set based on originality and from there it can go up or down depending on what was done and how much demand there is for the specific model. I am not saying a modified car will not fetch a premium however it may take considerably longer to find the right buyer for the particular modifications.
Old 04-24-2014, 06:18 PM
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Many tks for all the thoughts and views since I started this thread .
The rebuild starts next week in earnest and eta is 6-8 weeks.
I've decided standard is for me and to concentrate more on getting the cosmetics right and spending eventually on suspension in due course.
Maybe before the 964 is ready ill attend a meet in my 996 if you'll have me !
Tks David
Old 04-24-2014, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Brideyo
Many tks for all the thoughts and views since I started this thread . The rebuild starts next week in earnest and eta is 6-8 weeks. I've decided standard is for me and to concentrate more on getting the cosmetics right and spending eventually on suspension in due course. Maybe before the 964 is ready ill attend a meet in my 996 if you'll have me ! Tks David
Exciting times. Keep us updated. Of course David
Old 05-20-2014, 03:52 PM
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https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

First pics of my engine thankfully it's started
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Originally Posted by Brideyo
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater First pics of my engine thankfully it's started
Exciting. So plan is to strip down and then decide on upgrades?
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Hi Frank I think George is trying to persuade me to go upgrades but I'm thinking standard but interested to hear what he thinks about fitting cup cams. George on hols for a while so I still think the car is 8 weeks from being done. Steering rack being fitted soon too
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Originally Posted by Brideyo
Hi Frank I think George is trying to persuade me to go upgrades but I'm thinking standard but interested to hear what he thinks about fitting cup cams. George on hols for a while so I still think the car is 8 weeks from being done. Steering rack being fitted soon too
As I'm sure you know, Jack and Alex are the gents to talk to about Cup cams.
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Iv thrown the idea at George but could use some ideas as to costs



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