Fun with an F430....
04-02-2007, 11:55 AM
#46
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Originally Posted by YYC930
Actually the R&T test (IIRC) at Fiorano had the F430 doing the same 0-60 as the Enzo on the front straight, it was on their cover of the issue and the R&T site is not working right now, so I can't search for it..................and if you've driven both cars extensively, which you didn't indicate in your post, so I will not make any assumptions, you'd agree that an F430 has "gobs of torque" relative to the F360 or other F-cars.
"Cushy and fancy" do not relate to an F430......it is raw and harsh in many ways a Porsche cannot be. Don't get me wrong, I love both cars, but until you have driven both "extensively" you should do so.
"Cushy and fancy" do not relate to an F430......it is raw and harsh in many ways a Porsche cannot be. Don't get me wrong, I love both cars, but until you have driven both "extensively" you should do so.
Nice car but I would not trade my turbo for one and the maintenance is a nightmare compared to any Porsche. I also find the fit and finish to be only surface deep and quality control is lacking for the price of these vehicles.
04-02-2007, 11:58 AM
#47
Burning Brakes
"Cushy and fancy" do not relate to an F430......it is raw and harsh in many ways a Porsche cannot be
Last edited by melman911; 04-06-2007 at 10:52 AM.
04-02-2007, 12:09 PM
#48
"Why don't you pull Torque ratings on let's say the T348, F355, F360 and F430. Uhh snap?None of these will come close to the 965."
As far as I can tell, the 3.6L 964 version turbo engine produced 383 lbft of torque and 360hp. I welcome corrected specs.
The F430 specs (source is the factory) are about 490 hp and 343 lbft of torque. Close, but the old turbo wins!
The 599 crushes both cars, as it ought to, given it's by far the newest, and just a wee bit more expensive than the turbo. Your original comment criticized Ferrari engine torque in general. The 1991 F40 has 425; the '91 Testarossa about 360. You may say these are apples to the turbo's orange - so be it, but there are the numbers.
I don't think anyone is claiming Ferraris are the fastest thing on the road. I try to stay out of arguments about which car is "better," as I can't even make up my own mind. I'd love to own a 964 turbo.
The 430 is significant advance from the 360 - even the Stradale (425 hp, 275 lbft).
As far as I can tell, the 3.6L 964 version turbo engine produced 383 lbft of torque and 360hp. I welcome corrected specs.
The F430 specs (source is the factory) are about 490 hp and 343 lbft of torque. Close, but the old turbo wins!
The 599 crushes both cars, as it ought to, given it's by far the newest, and just a wee bit more expensive than the turbo. Your original comment criticized Ferrari engine torque in general. The 1991 F40 has 425; the '91 Testarossa about 360. You may say these are apples to the turbo's orange - so be it, but there are the numbers.
I don't think anyone is claiming Ferraris are the fastest thing on the road. I try to stay out of arguments about which car is "better," as I can't even make up my own mind. I'd love to own a 964 turbo.
The 430 is significant advance from the 360 - even the Stradale (425 hp, 275 lbft).
04-03-2007, 12:57 AM
#49
Three Wheelin'
Well, that is one sexy F430. I really like the spider version, but I think Ferrari has to do something with the front apron. This F430's reiteration of the F360-which to me looks like a plecaustimus (sp),you know, the bottom dwelling ugly fish that sticks to the inside of an aquarium.....
I think the F355 had a better apron (front nose).
I think the F355 had a better apron (front nose).
04-03-2007, 12:16 PM
#51
Burning Brakes
I don't think anyone is claiming Ferraris are the fastest thing on the road. I try to stay out of arguments about which car is "better," as I can't even make up my own mind. I'd love to own a 964 turbo.
My brother thinks they are going to kick me off the site (maybe) 
But.....this is a Porsche forum...so.....most of the people on here own Porsches.......so...what do you think about a biased response for Porsches. Maybe just maybe rennlisters think Porsches are better...that's why they bought them...just assuming. Wondering if going on a "F-car" site might stir anything up if I start making comments about Porsche being better. Probably 
Maybe?
04-05-2007, 10:05 AM
#53
Burning Brakes
Depends on when my last manicure was........
That was the best response i've seen on any of these threads...good one. 
Glad it can all be taken with a grain of salt...
Last edited by melman911; 04-06-2007 at 09:49 AM.
04-05-2007, 10:46 AM
#56
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Originally Posted by ttAmerica RoadsterAWD
Hi SA Mike!
Race??
That's a cool green 965. Did you trade or own both?
Race??
That's a cool green 965. Did you trade or own both?
