Intercooler Removal
#1
Intercooler Removal
Is there a DIY on removing the intercooler? I'm buying my first turbo (91) and want to spend some time cleaning up the engine. Its a stock set up. Thanks
#2
Rennlist Member
Removal is the easy part. Getting it back on so you seat over the o-ring on the throttle body can be challenging.
Disconnect the three hoses and three wires. The wires to the cutoff switch and the boost sender are on bayonet connectors at the back of the i/c. The ground is on the left side of the i/c and is a 10 mm bolt & washer.
There are three 13 mm bolts that you have to remove to pull it off: two on mounting "forks" left and right and one on the coil bracket.
The left bolt sits under the i/c toward the back but you can reach it with a 8 inch long extension. The right one, also toward the back is on the right side such that you can easily see it. Just loosen these as you don't need to take them completely out. the one in the front also has a spacer and two isolation doughnuts. Pull the bolt out and be prepared to catch the washer and doughnuts when you lift the i/c off or they will fall into the console.
To re-install, lube up the o-ring with soapy water and push the i/c on while making sure you get the mounting bolts onto the forks. Use a flashlight or trouble light to make sure the i/c is covering the o-ring and is fully seated on the t/b. Run the front bolt into the bracket (you'll have to move the i/c around to do this; try not to drop the washers out while re-positioning). Tighten the bolts up once you are satisfied that the i/c is seated then hook up the hoses and wires.
Make damn sure that the ground wire is tightened up or the bolt will fall out and your car will strand you somewhere.
Have fun!
Disconnect the three hoses and three wires. The wires to the cutoff switch and the boost sender are on bayonet connectors at the back of the i/c. The ground is on the left side of the i/c and is a 10 mm bolt & washer.
There are three 13 mm bolts that you have to remove to pull it off: two on mounting "forks" left and right and one on the coil bracket.
The left bolt sits under the i/c toward the back but you can reach it with a 8 inch long extension. The right one, also toward the back is on the right side such that you can easily see it. Just loosen these as you don't need to take them completely out. the one in the front also has a spacer and two isolation doughnuts. Pull the bolt out and be prepared to catch the washer and doughnuts when you lift the i/c off or they will fall into the console.
To re-install, lube up the o-ring with soapy water and push the i/c on while making sure you get the mounting bolts onto the forks. Use a flashlight or trouble light to make sure the i/c is covering the o-ring and is fully seated on the t/b. Run the front bolt into the bracket (you'll have to move the i/c around to do this; try not to drop the washers out while re-positioning). Tighten the bolts up once you are satisfied that the i/c is seated then hook up the hoses and wires.
Make damn sure that the ground wire is tightened up or the bolt will fall out and your car will strand you somewhere.
Have fun!
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ianbsears (02-05-2023)
#4
perfect diy, just a few remarks for the installing procedure:
i use tire mounting paste to lubrify the o-ring and the intercooler flange, workes perfect.
in addition to what Paul wrote i also loosen the two 13mm nuts (after the ic is already removed) of the coil bracket and push the bracket backwards, that makes installing easier. tightening the bracket nuts is the last step, if all the rest is already fixed.
last not least i recommend to losen both hose clamps of the blow-off-valve, which gives it a bit more flexibility.
when everything is right while putting the ic into its fittings, it will fall with almost light pressure in its position.
fritz
i use tire mounting paste to lubrify the o-ring and the intercooler flange, workes perfect.
in addition to what Paul wrote i also loosen the two 13mm nuts (after the ic is already removed) of the coil bracket and push the bracket backwards, that makes installing easier. tightening the bracket nuts is the last step, if all the rest is already fixed.
last not least i recommend to losen both hose clamps of the blow-off-valve, which gives it a bit more flexibility.
when everything is right while putting the ic into its fittings, it will fall with almost light pressure in its position.
fritz
#5
Burning Brakes
By somebody's suggestion - probably Paul - I put the o-ring in some super hot water for a few minutes first, too.
And don't lose rubber isolation bushings - I've had a couple fall off during install - and I have no idea where they went - a black hole - and they cost me $11 each at a local shop - for a stupid little piece of rubber. I'm sure I could have ordered online for less but time, shipping etc etc. Not the end of the world by any means but it was a little surprise...
And don't lose rubber isolation bushings - I've had a couple fall off during install - and I have no idea where they went - a black hole - and they cost me $11 each at a local shop - for a stupid little piece of rubber. I'm sure I could have ordered online for less but time, shipping etc etc. Not the end of the world by any means but it was a little surprise...
#6
Rennlist Member
By somebody's suggestion - probably Paul - I put the o-ring in some super hot water for a few minutes first, too.
And don't lose rubber isolation bushings - I've had a couple fall off during install - and I have no idea where they went - a black hole - and they cost me $11 each at a local shop - for a stupid little piece of rubber. I'm sure I could have ordered online for less but time, shipping etc etc. Not the end of the world by any means but it was a little surprise...
And don't lose rubber isolation bushings - I've had a couple fall off during install - and I have no idea where they went - a black hole - and they cost me $11 each at a local shop - for a stupid little piece of rubber. I'm sure I could have ordered online for less but time, shipping etc etc. Not the end of the world by any means but it was a little surprise...
I didn't know about the hot water trick but it should help with compressing the o-ring as the i/c slips down over it. I use a water-based lubricant called Merpol that I get from work but can't be easily bought, I believe.
#7
By somebody's suggestion - probably Paul - I put the o-ring in some super hot water for a few minutes first, too.
fritz
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#8
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The real enemy here is friction that will roll the o-ring out of the groove.
Maybe the answer is to heat it up in soapy water because soapy water alone doesn't reduce friction enough.
#9
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A small amount of lubricant will do the trick. Honestly if your going to go through the trouble, install a new seal...they're cheap.
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#10
Pro
Reviving this thread since this is on my list as well. Glad to know it looks pretty straight forward. I love that I can find everything here!
My question is how to refinish the IC once it's off. Mine (assuming stock) has been painted and has some paint peeling. So I figured while it's off I'll have it refinished. Any recommendations: Ceramic coated? Powder coated? Something else?
And as usual do you guys have any other recommendations for: "while you are there you might as well........." ? (i'm going to replace the bushings and o-ring for sure)
My question is how to refinish the IC once it's off. Mine (assuming stock) has been painted and has some paint peeling. So I figured while it's off I'll have it refinished. Any recommendations: Ceramic coated? Powder coated? Something else?
And as usual do you guys have any other recommendations for: "while you are there you might as well........." ? (i'm going to replace the bushings and o-ring for sure)
Last edited by das76; 02-04-2023 at 08:55 PM.
#11
Rennlist Member
My question is how to refinish the IC once it's off. Mine (assuming stock) has been painted and has some paint peeling. So I figured while it's off I'll have it refinished. Any recommendations: Ceramic coated? Powder coated? Something else?
And as usual do you guys have any other recommendations for: "while you are there you might as well........." ? (i'm going to replace the bushings and o-ring for sure)
And as usual do you guys have any other recommendations for: "while you are there you might as well........." ? (i'm going to replace the bushings and o-ring for sure)
While you're in there? Replace all of the molded signal hoses that go from the intercooler to the aux air valve and blow-of valve while they are still cheap and being manufactured by Porsche. Make sure that the ducktail seal is contacting the intercooler shroud.
#12
Pro
thanks Paul. I should clarify I’m not too concerned about painting core (if that changes anything).
here are some pics: I want to remove the sticker and silver paint
I have already replaced the seal that goes around the shroud which you mentioned since mine was shredded in places. (Side note: If you zoom in you’ll see a hole in the shroud. The previous owner must have been too lazy to replace the plastic bracket that holds the AC lines so he drilled a hole and zip tied them to the shroud. That shredded the seal after several years since the AC lines squished the seal when the spoiler was closed. Morons. I replaced the seal and replaced both AC line brackets. Trying my best to tidy things up.)
rubber bushings definitely need changing
are those two valves called “Warm-up valve” and “auxiliary air regulator” in the PET? Parts 29 and 48 respectively ? (PET is my new favourite bedtime reading. Haha)
here are some pics: I want to remove the sticker and silver paint
I have already replaced the seal that goes around the shroud which you mentioned since mine was shredded in places. (Side note: If you zoom in you’ll see a hole in the shroud. The previous owner must have been too lazy to replace the plastic bracket that holds the AC lines so he drilled a hole and zip tied them to the shroud. That shredded the seal after several years since the AC lines squished the seal when the spoiler was closed. Morons. I replaced the seal and replaced both AC line brackets. Trying my best to tidy things up.)
rubber bushings definitely need changing
are those two valves called “Warm-up valve” and “auxiliary air regulator” in the PET? Parts 29 and 48 respectively ? (PET is my new favourite bedtime reading. Haha)
Last edited by das76; 02-07-2023 at 02:41 AM.
#13
Gentlemen, Here is a Hack passed on. to me that really eases installation off the C2 inter cooler and preserves/ seals quite awesome.
I have never torn or blown out a red O-ring..
What is molykote 111 used for?
As an anti-stick and a sealant for transformer gasket and equipment enclosures – it prevents gaskets from sticking to metal and resists weathering and water washout. Also suitable for rubber and plastic O-rings, gaskets and seals.
https://www.dupont.com/products/moly...-compound.html
I have never torn or blown out a red O-ring..
What is molykote 111 used for?
As an anti-stick and a sealant for transformer gasket and equipment enclosures – it prevents gaskets from sticking to metal and resists weathering and water washout. Also suitable for rubber and plastic O-rings, gaskets and seals.
https://www.dupont.com/products/moly...-compound.html
#14
Rennlist Member
As for the hoses, you want #'s 40, 42, 53 and 54.
Last edited by Metal Guru; 02-08-2023 at 10:46 AM.
#15
Pro
Thanks Paul. Well i guessed 50% right with: #53 and 54. haha.
should I strip all the paint off to bare AL, then primer + paint?
Is there anything in particular about these hoses , or just preventative on 33 year old hoses?
@Black_Hat thanks for the tip!
should I strip all the paint off to bare AL, then primer + paint?
Is there anything in particular about these hoses , or just preventative on 33 year old hoses?
@Black_Hat thanks for the tip!
Last edited by das76; 02-07-2023 at 03:34 PM.