Blown engine on 2015 Boxster GTS - Options?
08-25-2023, 05:29 PM
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Well this keeps getting more complicated and frustrating. But I'm learning a lot in the process.
I'm faced with two options. I'd prefer (as would most everyone here) Option #2. BUT I have to factor in which option won't leave me a big bill and an extended warranty company skating on paying out.
OPTION #1 - Use my local garage to replace the old engine with a factory refurb 3.2L: They are still quoting $52K to do the job. But now I understand that $9K of that is assuming we don't get anything back on the engine core return. They say that's 50/50. So assuming I DO get core return credit (for the fun of it) it would cost $44K to get a 3.2L. (They said an insurance inspector looked at the car, and will check it again after the work is done before paying out.)
Benefits of this: They are local, they are working aggressively with the warranty company to get reimbursed.
OPTION #2 - Use BGB Motorsport to put in a factory refurb 3.8L: They are quoting $40K to do the job. BUT they are also assuming we'll get a core refund. If we don't, it bumps that up to $49K. AND (most importantly) my phone-calls to the warranty company so far indicate if I move to a different garage, it starts the claim process all over again - and they could deny it.
Challenges of this: I'd need to get the car moved from Texas to Florida, and they won't deal with the warranty company. (Not that I blame them..)
This morning I was fired up about option #2. After a frustrating afternoon on the phone with the Safe-Guard extended warranty folks, I'm feeling I may have to stick with the 3.2L and just be happy to have it covered, and ESTATIC if I get the core refund. The warranty is telling my local shop they will reimburse $41K.
Always open to ideas!
Dave
I'm faced with two options. I'd prefer (as would most everyone here) Option #2. BUT I have to factor in which option won't leave me a big bill and an extended warranty company skating on paying out.
OPTION #1 - Use my local garage to replace the old engine with a factory refurb 3.2L: They are still quoting $52K to do the job. But now I understand that $9K of that is assuming we don't get anything back on the engine core return. They say that's 50/50. So assuming I DO get core return credit (for the fun of it) it would cost $44K to get a 3.2L. (They said an insurance inspector looked at the car, and will check it again after the work is done before paying out.)
Benefits of this: They are local, they are working aggressively with the warranty company to get reimbursed.
OPTION #2 - Use BGB Motorsport to put in a factory refurb 3.8L: They are quoting $40K to do the job. BUT they are also assuming we'll get a core refund. If we don't, it bumps that up to $49K. AND (most importantly) my phone-calls to the warranty company so far indicate if I move to a different garage, it starts the claim process all over again - and they could deny it.
Challenges of this: I'd need to get the car moved from Texas to Florida, and they won't deal with the warranty company. (Not that I blame them..)
This morning I was fired up about option #2. After a frustrating afternoon on the phone with the Safe-Guard extended warranty folks, I'm feeling I may have to stick with the 3.2L and just be happy to have it covered, and ESTATIC if I get the core refund. The warranty is telling my local shop they will reimburse $41K.
Always open to ideas!
Dave
Last edited by Delzell; 08-25-2023 at 05:51 PM.
08-25-2023, 06:14 PM
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08-25-2023, 06:59 PM
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https://parts.porschechandler.com/oe...g2LWdhcw%3D%3D
What I would do is call a Porsche dealer to confirm fitment with the part number I sent. If the dealer confirms that it fits I'd show your shop and ask them what's going on.
EDIT: 43k is an oddly specific number and it seems like its the cost of a brand new engine instead of a refurbed engine which would explain the price discrepancies between your shop vs BGB
https://parts.porschechandler.com/oe...ne-9a110092501
Last edited by nhnguy12; 08-25-2023 at 07:05 PM.
08-27-2023, 07:38 PM
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I'd like to keep my out of pocket down to $11K if possible. This was an unanticipated expense. That's what I'll be out with the local shop if I don't get a core refund.
As for working with BGB, I'd LOVE that option. BUT it sounds to me like the warranty company will use any opportunity like that to deny a claim they've already approved with the local shop. I'm going to call an adjuster tomorrow to discuss that... (Finally got a phone number after a week of trying.)
As for working with BGB, I'd LOVE that option. BUT it sounds to me like the warranty company will use any opportunity like that to deny a claim they've already approved with the local shop. I'm going to call an adjuster tomorrow to discuss that... (Finally got a phone number after a week of trying.)
08-27-2023, 07:44 PM
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It seems real weird to me that the warranty company would argue about a cheaper bill because you decided to get a second opinion / look around at other shops. Have they actually said that?
09-04-2023, 05:24 PM
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Well, after more research, I (sadly) had to go with letting my local shop do the work.
It really boiled down to:
OPTION #1 - LOCAL GARAGE
Because I only have to cover the $11K delta, and I leave with a "new" (factory rebuilt) engine with a two year warranty in a couple of months.
vs:
OPTION #2 - Use BGB to get a factory refurb 3.8L
Which would be cool! BUT it would require dig up $40K to get the work started. Put my car back together enough to get it on a transport. Ship it to Florida. Wait to get an engine and get it done. THEN I would be at risk to get the warranty company to pay for it. (Which they've already agreed to pay for my local garage.)
BGB themselves won't work with a warranty company. Why? Because they never got reimbursed for a previous job. (There's a big red flag for me. These warranty companies look for reasons not to pay, and I don't want to give them one.)
I DO think that BGB is a cool option. I think I'd prefer to buy a very high mileage Cayman with a tired engine and use them when I'm just paying for it on my own, in a planned effort.
So ends this thread..
Thank you all for the input and ideas!!!
Dave
It really boiled down to:
OPTION #1 - LOCAL GARAGE
Because I only have to cover the $11K delta, and I leave with a "new" (factory rebuilt) engine with a two year warranty in a couple of months.
vs:
OPTION #2 - Use BGB to get a factory refurb 3.8L
Which would be cool! BUT it would require dig up $40K to get the work started. Put my car back together enough to get it on a transport. Ship it to Florida. Wait to get an engine and get it done. THEN I would be at risk to get the warranty company to pay for it. (Which they've already agreed to pay for my local garage.)
BGB themselves won't work with a warranty company. Why? Because they never got reimbursed for a previous job. (There's a big red flag for me. These warranty companies look for reasons not to pay, and I don't want to give them one.)
I DO think that BGB is a cool option. I think I'd prefer to buy a very high mileage Cayman with a tired engine and use them when I'm just paying for it on my own, in a planned effort.
So ends this thread..
Thank you all for the input and ideas!!!
Dave
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09-05-2023, 04:15 AM
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Sorry, I don't understand your warranty "logic" if you still have to pay 11k.
These are things you should be able to discuss / commit together with the shop in advance to not have a "risk" afterwards...
These are things you should be able to discuss / commit together with the shop in advance to not have a "risk" afterwards...
09-05-2023, 11:41 AM
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"I think I'd prefer to buy a very high mileage Cayman with a tired engine and use them when I'm just paying for it on my own, in a planned effort."
Here's one:
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ckType=listing
Here's one:
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ckType=listing
09-05-2023, 01:31 PM
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I still don't understand why you are paying 11k out of pocket if you have a warranty or why your shop is seemingly charging you double for an engine that cost 24k brand new.
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