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Old 05-20-2021, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by sectachrome
I hear this "I need a faster car for the track because people pass me" thing a lot and I don't really understand it. Unless you're competing, what does it matter?
The DE trophy is the most prestigious achievement anyone could win. JK!

My group of friends drive faster cars and it's really fun when we drive together but sucks being left behind. Tracks like Sonoma even the playing field a little more but the couple straight sections are enough to lose each other, let alone getting around people. Unless people let go of the throttle it's really hard to pass safely.

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Old 05-20-2021, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by garfunkle
I usually just tell people to brake later and accelerate sooner
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Laguna Seca - Salinas, CA
1. 1:38.49 - OrthoJoe on Oct, 2016 tires: RE71, mods: Standard suspension bits for track alignment - post #332
2. 1:39.20 - Mech33 on 6/13/17 tires: RE-71R, - post #759video
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3. 1:39.8X - doborder Oct, 2016 tires: Re-71Rs, modes: u/k - post #334
4. 1:40.40 - Radiantm3 tires: mods: stock incl alignment (-1.8/-1.6). Traction/stability control/auto rev-match off - post #164
5. 1:41.36 - Katmeho on 6/11/16, tires: PSC2s; mods: stock, -2.9 Front -2.5 Rear-post #59
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Sonoma Raceway - Sonoma, CA
1. 1:48.24 OrthoJoe Oct 2016 tires: RE71, mods:Standard suspension bits for track alignment - post #332
2. 1:49.12 24Chromium on 10/29/2017, tires: Hoosier R7s, mods: suspension - post #993 VIDEO
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4. 1:52.81 ChrisF 11/27/15 Tires: MPSC2 Mods: none; bone stock - post #22
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OrthoJoe is 1s slower than Randy Pobst at Laguna with the GT4 and I'm 5.1s slower than OrthoJoe in my base. There's only so much brake/accel I can do!

Here's Randy doing 1:37.43
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Old 05-20-2021, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 9eight7
The DE trophy is the most prestigious achievement anyone could win. JK!

My group of friends drive faster cars and it's really fun when we drive together but sucks being left behind. Tracks like Sonoma even the playing field a little more but the couple straight sections are enough to lose each other, let alone getting around people. Unless people let go of the throttle it's really hard to pass safely.
Okay yeah in that case I get it. Guess you need to make some poorer friends to drive with.
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Old 05-22-2021, 12:25 PM
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I own a 2.7 currently. It’s an awesome car and easy DD. I don’t need more power and even on the track it’s more car for my current driving skills.

The manual 2.7 has the same 0-60 as the S automatic. So you have S car specs for the base price.
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Old 05-22-2021, 02:17 PM
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I bought my 2008 2.7 almost 13 years ago after driving both mine and a S version. There were two reasons. The 2.7 was every bit as attractive. And second, I felt the S was more than I would ever use or need for the street. The impression I got was the 50 or so additional horse power of the S would rarely if ever be usable without getting into some serious ticket trouble. And I never looked back. Never have I regretted my decision nor have I ever had S envy. Not once. And having the extra $10k remaining in my bank account was a nice bonus. I did add a Fabspeed exhaust tip extension because I liked the look better. Other than that it's essentially the way i bought it. I still love the car, love driving it, and intend to own it until they take me away on a gurney with a sheet over my head. Plus I don't have to worry about IMS or bore scoring as they're essentially unheard of in the 2.7. Couldn't be happier with my decision.
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Old 05-22-2021, 06:13 PM
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My opinion-Buy a base, avoid some of the worries of an S as noted above, spend a couple thousand making it yours with a few tasteful mods and pocket the rest of the 6-8k you saved over an S. I drove 2 S's and neither seemed much quicker than mine, just a touch more grunt but in my mind not thousands of dollars worth of grunt.
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Old 05-22-2021, 06:23 PM
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Everybody is different. After owning a new 987 base 5 speed and a new 987 S 6 speed, the S was worth the difference. Base was fun, my first pcar, but not enough for me.
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I've owned my base 2.7 987.1 Cayman for 5 years. I love it, its been very reliable, a blast to drive, looks identical to an S and I don't need to worry about bore scoring. Its also a little lighter than the S and not a big difference in power. I plan on keeping it a long time and would definitely recommend buying one. Its the best value Porsche in my opinion.
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Old 05-25-2021, 03:45 PM
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I have had a 987.2 base for a year and love it. Took me 4 months of searching to find it and missed several by not being the first one in line. In my search I was open to a CS as well. But I wanted a .2 and when mine popped up with a manual, Sport Seats, Sport Chrono, 19" rims and more I was all over it and first in line.

While more power is always fun, if I was searching again I would take the same approach and buy the best car I could find with the options I really wanted and in one of the colors I preferred.

No regrets, I just wish mine had PASM. My 981 has it and it smooths out the ride so much – even with 20" rims.

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I've heard a few people say that a Cayman weighs less than a Cayman S. Do you have anything to base that on? For a .2, like my Cayman, the only things I could think would be lighter would be the rear brake rotors as they are slightly thinner and if you want to go real crazy the brake callipers as the anodized black finish should weigh a few grams less than the red paint!

I love my 2.9 6MT Cayman, zero regrets about not paying $10,000 more for an S model. The car already is too fast for street driving and I find my self 30kph over the limit all the time!
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Originally Posted by KrisA
I've heard a few people say that a Cayman weighs less than a Cayman S. Do you have anything to base that on?
Not saying it's the only source, but this page agrees: https://www.stuttcars.com/porsche-models/cayman/987.2/
About 15-20kg lighter for the non-S (depending on PDK vs manual).
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Can't comment much on weight difference from base vs. S, [weight from increased displacement/ more oil in motor, brakes, beefier sway bars, also that 'S' emblem must weight a ton]


-However, the Boxster IS lighter than the Cayman. About a 100lbs lighter...

-Infact the lightest Boxster (base, 5-sp) is 220lbs lighter than the heaviest Cayman (S, tiptronic).


Unlike other convertible versions of car (that are based on their coupe counterparts) where structure is added to a chassis to add rigidity when eliminating the roof, the 987 chassis was originally designed as an outright roadster. Infact, adding a metal roof to create the Cayman did increase the weight.
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Old 05-27-2021, 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by KrisA
I've heard a few people say that a Cayman weighs less than a Cayman S. Do you have anything to base that on? For a .2, like my Cayman, the only things I could think would be lighter would be the rear brake rotors as they are slightly thinner and if you want to go real crazy the brake callipers as the anodized black finish should weigh a few grams less than the red paint!

I love my 2.9 6MT Cayman, zero regrets about not paying $10,000 more for an S model. The car already is too fast for street driving and I find my self 30kph over the limit all the time!
The smaller engine in the base weighs less than the larger engine in the S.
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Originally Posted by CW987
The smaller engine in the base weighs less than the larger engine in the S.
I believe the base is approximately 150 lbs lighter than the S.
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Originally Posted by PhillyNate
I believe the base is approximately 150 lbs lighter than the S.
-The 987.2 Cayman base is 44 lbs lighter than the Cayman S (if both manual), and 33lbs lighter than the S (if both are PDK).


The equivalent 987 Boxster base however is approximately 150-220lbs lighter than the Cayman S though.
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