Affordable 987.2 (Base) Diag Tool With Live Data Logging?
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Affordable 987.2 (Base) Diag Tool With Live Data Logging?
I was very disappointed to see that the Durametric does not have support for live data logging on the 987.2 base model because it uses a special Bosch ME 7.8.2 ECU:
As a result, I can't check important things like fuel trims, cam deviations, cylinder misfire/roughness, etc. I guess this model is kind of an oddball because it's runs the newer 9A1 motor, but doesn't have DI fuel injection, so they must not think it's worth supporting
Does anyone know if there are other affordable (sub $500) diagnostic tools that do live data logging on this model?
Or does one really need a PIWIS tester to do that type of logging?
As a result, I can't check important things like fuel trims, cam deviations, cylinder misfire/roughness, etc. I guess this model is kind of an oddball because it's runs the newer 9A1 motor, but doesn't have DI fuel injection, so they must not think it's worth supporting
Does anyone know if there are other affordable (sub $500) diagnostic tools that do live data logging on this model?
Or does one really need a PIWIS tester to do that type of logging?
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Foxwell NT530 (around $160 with Porsche software):
And it does LOTS of other things the Durametric can't do - like some programming for customer selectable features (it enabled the sport/sport-plus lights on my sport flappy paddle PDK wheel..) It's about the best I've seen for the 987 series, and I own a Durametric, an iCarScan and the Foxwell. The Foxwell was the cheapest and the most competent for the 987. You can see everything it does using: https://www.foxwelltool.com/ext/support-fun-list.html (input the car, make/model, then the device - you can then view it by system...) I'd suggest ordering from them since they promise lifetime updates for free, and if you email them and ask for their best price - you might get a discount. https://www.foxwelltool.com/info/contact-us/ - Mine was $155 free shipping, no tax and delivered in 3 days. Support exists but isn't all that prompt - a problem with all the Chinese brand manufacturers I've found. Maybe support from SnapOn (for around $5000) is better - dunno, haven't asked my mechanic.
And it does LOTS of other things the Durametric can't do - like some programming for customer selectable features (it enabled the sport/sport-plus lights on my sport flappy paddle PDK wheel..) It's about the best I've seen for the 987 series, and I own a Durametric, an iCarScan and the Foxwell. The Foxwell was the cheapest and the most competent for the 987. You can see everything it does using: https://www.foxwelltool.com/ext/support-fun-list.html (input the car, make/model, then the device - you can then view it by system...) I'd suggest ordering from them since they promise lifetime updates for free, and if you email them and ask for their best price - you might get a discount. https://www.foxwelltool.com/info/contact-us/ - Mine was $155 free shipping, no tax and delivered in 3 days. Support exists but isn't all that prompt - a problem with all the Chinese brand manufacturers I've found. Maybe support from SnapOn (for around $5000) is better - dunno, haven't asked my mechanic.
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Depending on what you want to view, you could also just use an OBD2 logger. I have the Torque app that I used on previous cars, and a cheap bluetooth OBD2 reader (like $15-ish, I believe) and I can view at least some of the items you mentioned. The only reason I say some is because I haven't looked for cam deviations or live misfires. I know I can see trims. I know I can see timing advance, as I wanted to see if I was getting knock-retard activity. I was actually hoping to see oil temperature, but that is not provided over OBD and requires reading the CAN bus.
I'm sure the Foxwell is a better way to go than this, but I already have this so I figured why not see what I can get.
I'm sure the Foxwell is a better way to go than this, but I already have this so I figured why not see what I can get.
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Thanks for the replies guys...
I actually used to have an NT510 for BMW/MINI scanner (a MINI Cooper is my DD) that was great initially, but with each software update seemed to get worse in terms of compatibility with my car, especially in simply connecting to the vehicle. A bit nervous to try Foxwell branded products again as a result.
It's nice to see the NT530 has live data support, but it also doesn't specify which 987s are supported. 09-12 (my gen) has a completely different DME than the 05-08 cars...
I actually use BimmerCode and BimmerLink on my phone now with the MINI, and they work fantastic, but only with MINI/BMW. If something equivalent existed for Porsche I'd be all over it.
I actually used to have an NT510 for BMW/MINI scanner (a MINI Cooper is my DD) that was great initially, but with each software update seemed to get worse in terms of compatibility with my car, especially in simply connecting to the vehicle. A bit nervous to try Foxwell branded products again as a result.
It's nice to see the NT530 has live data support, but it also doesn't specify which 987s are supported. 09-12 (my gen) has a completely different DME than the 05-08 cars...
I actually use BimmerCode and BimmerLink on my phone now with the MINI, and they work fantastic, but only with MINI/BMW. If something equivalent existed for Porsche I'd be all over it.
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Thanks for the replies guys...
I actually used to have an NT510 for BMW/MINI scanner (a MINI Cooper is my DD) that was great initially, but with each software update seemed to get worse in terms of compatibility with my car, especially in simply connecting to the vehicle. A bit nervous to try Foxwell branded products again as a result.
It's nice to see the NT530 has live data support, but it also doesn't specify which 987s are supported. 09-12 (my gen) has a completely different DME than the 05-08 cars...
I actually use BimmerCode and BimmerLink on my phone now with the MINI, and they work fantastic, but only with MINI/BMW. If something equivalent existed for Porsche I'd be all over it.
I actually used to have an NT510 for BMW/MINI scanner (a MINI Cooper is my DD) that was great initially, but with each software update seemed to get worse in terms of compatibility with my car, especially in simply connecting to the vehicle. A bit nervous to try Foxwell branded products again as a result.
It's nice to see the NT530 has live data support, but it also doesn't specify which 987s are supported. 09-12 (my gen) has a completely different DME than the 05-08 cars...
I actually use BimmerCode and BimmerLink on my phone now with the MINI, and they work fantastic, but only with MINI/BMW. If something equivalent existed for Porsche I'd be all over it.
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