987.2 Cayman Oil mixed into the coolant
#16
That video is excellent. Most of what is discussed revolves around the 987.1 but he didn’t go into any detail on the 987.2. I’m curious if the same cause (water pump) is the primary culprit of the cracked heads or are the 987.2 intermix caused by something else?
shareeda it would help to know how many miles and what type of maintenance the car has had done.
shareeda it would help to know how many miles and what type of maintenance the car has had done.
Last edited by Spyder_2011; 03-12-2024 at 05:12 PM.
#17
Yes we do it together with my friend because he have a hand scales, yes he work in my cayman R from long time, I prefer to change the both heat exchange to keep it safer for trip and delay use it, already now we change only the engine oil heat exchanger, by the way the transmutation oil was low in 30th march 2024 we add two liter, its looks the issue from PDK heat exchanger I order one from agency on 31 march, the part will arrive after two weeks.
We will give you the update as soon as we fix the part, we dive it to check the issue is continue or stop, it’s a same .
We will give you the update as soon as we fix the part, we dive it to check the issue is continue or stop, it’s a same .
#18
#19
Just the oil is mixed the coolant system, there is no coolant in the oil system, I will try to pull a vacuum and let it settle.
Yes, as you and jbx2 I will try to do use of a vacuum tool that pulls vacuum on the entire system.
Yes, as you and jbx2 I will try to do use of a vacuum tool that pulls vacuum on the entire system.
#20
Just the oil is mixed the coolant system, there is no coolant in the oil system, I will try to pull a vacuum and let it settle.
Yes, as you and jbx2 I will try to do use of a vacuum tool that pulls vacuum on the entire system.
Yes, as you and jbx2 I will try to do use of a vacuum tool that pulls vacuum on the entire system.
#21
Seems that if there’s oil in the coolant you would also see coolant in the oil once the coolant system fully pressurizes. Are you getting coolant in the oil too?
I agree with jbx2, typically when you refill the coolant system the proper method is the use of a vacuum tool that pulls vacuum on the entire system. Doing that may expose a vacuum leak somewhere if the vacuum doesn’t hold steady.
I agree with jbx2, typically when you refill the coolant system the proper method is the use of a vacuum tool that pulls vacuum on the entire system. Doing that may expose a vacuum leak somewhere if the vacuum doesn’t hold steady.
Yes, as you and jbx2 I will try to do use of a vacuum tool that pulls vacuum on the entire system.
#22
#23
I would agree with @old man neri in the sense that I would at least drop the oil filter canister and see what the oil at the filter looks like. To add to that, if the car only makes short trips, it may never get the oil hot enough to boil the natural condensation of water vapor out of the oil.
Generally, head gaskets are a prime culpret with regard to oil/water mix. There are standard automotive tests, not unique to Porsches, that can be applied. There is a tester that you can dip into the coolant to check for combustion gases. You can pressurise the coolant system and see if it holds pressure. You can do a leak down test on the cylinders. Again, none of this is Porsche specific, just standard diagnostic stuff.
If you really want to get down into the details, you can work your way through the link below.
https://newhillgarage.com/2023/04/14...tem-explained/
Generally, head gaskets are a prime culpret with regard to oil/water mix. There are standard automotive tests, not unique to Porsches, that can be applied. There is a tester that you can dip into the coolant to check for combustion gases. You can pressurise the coolant system and see if it holds pressure. You can do a leak down test on the cylinders. Again, none of this is Porsche specific, just standard diagnostic stuff.
If you really want to get down into the details, you can work your way through the link below.
https://newhillgarage.com/2023/04/14...tem-explained/
Many thanks for the answer and the link we will follow the steps.
#24
You need to take a proper oil sample first as mentioned above. In legit cases of mixing, internal engine oil cooler leakage is possible but if a PDK, the pdk cooler can also create a mixing issue. The quality of the mixed fluid with coolant looks and smells a little different though.
#25
We didn’t added oil to the coolant, we are sure that something else happen.
#26
TLDNR
In order of frequency, higher to extreamly low
Oil in Coolant - possible cracked cylinder head (backside of head, not frontside like usual (i.e not combustion side))
Coolant in Oil - possible cracked cylinder head, cylinder, heat exchanger
Mix in both - again, cylinder head - requires close to balanced system pressures under certain conditions (hot day etc.)
Rare if ever, head gasket failure.
In order of frequency, higher to extreamly low
Oil in Coolant - possible cracked cylinder head (backside of head, not frontside like usual (i.e not combustion side))
Coolant in Oil - possible cracked cylinder head, cylinder, heat exchanger
Mix in both - again, cylinder head - requires close to balanced system pressures under certain conditions (hot day etc.)
Rare if ever, head gasket failure.
#27
That video is excellent. Most of what is discussed revolves around the 987.1 but he didn’t go into any detail on the 987.2. I’m curious if the same cause (water pump) is the primary culprit of the cracked heads or are the 987.2 intermix caused by something else?
shareeda it would help to know how many miles and what type of maintenance the car has had done.
shareeda it would help to know how many miles and what type of maintenance the car has had done.
Now the cayman R driven 219,511km, the service history mostly and two last service is done in Porsche agency.
#28
If you’re confident it’s the heat exchanger for the PDK the other component to check is the PDK oil which it looks like you already have planned. If you don’t mind please report back your findings so we can all learn from this.
At that mileage I would hope that the water pump, belts and other maintenance items have been performed. If they haven’t been changed I would definitely get it done.
At that mileage I would hope that the water pump, belts and other maintenance items have been performed. If they haven’t been changed I would definitely get it done.
#29
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#30
If you’re confident it’s the heat exchanger for the PDK the other component to check is the PDK oil which it looks like you already have planned. If you don’t mind please report back your findings so we can all learn from this.
At that mileage I would hope that the water pump, belts and other maintenance items have been performed. If they haven’t been changed I would definitely get it done.
At that mileage I would hope that the water pump, belts and other maintenance items have been performed. If they haven’t been changed I would definitely get it done.
last update:
we took the car to a specialist last Wednesday on 24th of April, we changed the PDK Heat Exchanger and we did the flushing for the coolant for 3 days, today on 29th we received the car and we are in testing phase.
hopefully that the issue is resolved, we will check it in the weekend and we will get you back with the result.
Best Regards and thank you for your support.