ltc

I don't believe there is any "if" involved.
All current PAG products are overproduced and will suffer the same depreciation.
It matters not, just look at the numbers since the introduction of the 'wet' motors...9x6, 9x7, Cayenne.
This is simply the byproduct of Dr W's 10 year plan and 100K cars/yr goal.

If depreciation matters (FWIW, my 01 996TT, 4500miles, $131K MSRP is currently 'valued/worth' $65K), then don't buy any new PAG vehicle.
If you intend on keeping it and never consider depreciation or resale, then a new PAG is in your future.

ltc

I don't think I would consider the Cayman S a "true" sportscar.
Perhaps a GT3 or GT2.

Doug&Julie

I think of the GT3 and GT2 as "specials", even if they have a "production run". So I'm referring to true production cars. I think the Cayman is as "true" as they come. (..as a modern sports car..)

M758

I did that with my wife's ML320 and my 530i.

Hey there was no other way I would be able to pull off those cars new.

Irishdriver

In France they are selling more caymen than boxsters...

In Germany - dealer stock cars and dealer demo cars are plentyful so you can haggle. Rumours are that many potential Porsche customers are finding the car a little too "sporting". (I can't see the problem here)

One real problem is that with a few options the base Cayman can get as expensive as an "s". This, as well as the cheaper cabrio problem does indicate a mismatch with the customer expectation.

Doug&Julie

I kinda did that with my current Boxster. It's a little more than two years old (2001), but it just came off a lease, only has 29k miles, and is fully certified for two years.

I'm hoping to drive this for at least two more years until Julie graduates, we move to Portland, and I can afford a used Cayman!

rss997

Because they are an overproduced joke of a car. Really, why not get a boxster and enjoy the top down when you want. How many people really need the extra rigidity of the Cayman.

They should have put a real engine in it and sold the hell out of them.

ELUSIVE

I would hardly say that the Cayman is a joke of a car. Many people don't like convertibles and anyone who really tracks their car would benefit from the extra rigidity of the car.

While i think that they would have sold a ton of Caymans with the 3.6 or even 3.8 motors, that probably would have driven buyers away from the 911 which I'm sure that they didn't want to do.

mooty

right on. even with 3.4, i took cayman over 997s.

M758

Well I don't think the cayman (2.7 or 3.4) is joke of a car. I personally don't like convertables. I love the boxster, but would hate the covertable top after about 15 min of street use so I have never considered owning one at any price.

I think the cayman is probably the best car Porsche makes short of a GT3 in terms of what a Porsche should be. However I think it $10,000 overpriced considering the boxster. A cayman = boxster + fixed roof so why they charge more is pruly a game of marketing. In no other series in Porsche history has a coupe and cab version of a car had different names or seen the coupe more than the cab (the 356 speedster might be the exception since it was sold as "stripped" car).

Price the cayman 5k less than same engine in the boxster and most of my complaints will go away ( Now if they would just offer an LSD in the car and RoW M030).

wushuhsu

I don't get it. When a customer buys a Cayman instead of a 911, they're still buying a Porsche. While some of the Cayman customers might buy a 911 instead in order to get the extra 50HP, others will just buy some other brand. At least by offering more powerful models in the Cayman line, Porsche still gets the sale. As for profit margin, Porsche can price the 3.6L Cayman model with the same profit margin as the 911, so they'll still be the world's most profitable car company.

mooty

i agree. i would pay 150k for a cayman with GT3 drivetrain.

fast1

I think the cayman is probably the best car Porsche makes short of a GT3 in terms of what a Porsche should be. However I think it $10,000 overpriced considering the boxster.

Let's keep in mind that a manufacturer of a commodity can merely suggest a price. The market place determines the actual selling price. If the Cayman is overpriced by $10K as you suggest, the market will force the price to that level. I see no evidence of that happening.

CP

Actually, the current market is anywhere between $5k - $9k below MSRP depending on location and amount of options. So yes, the market is making it's own price adjustments on new Cayman and Cayman S sales.

CP

The B

+1.....maybe not 150k.