I was all ready to order a Cayman S but...
10-04-2006, 09:21 AM
#31
Originally Posted by mooty
well, cay s is a bit down on power by today's standards and i know many ppl are not wow'd by it. howver, i also know many who are. and many of them are/were GT3 owners who track a lot.
no need to 2nd guess yourself. if you like it, you do. if not, find another that suits better.
no need to 2nd guess yourself. if you like it, you do. if not, find another that suits better.
10-04-2006, 10:16 AM
#32
Three Wheelin'
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: The City, NY
Posts: 1,416
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by 02 Carrera
The cost of the Kompressor is $22.9K-23.9K depending on model, except...Ruf doesn't offer a Kompressor for the Cayman S 3.4l. They only have it as a standalone option(installed at Ruf Autocentre) on the 996 and 997 Carrera/4 and Carrera S/4S models.
The Kompressor is standard on the Ruf-Germany built RK-Cayman that includes the Carrera S' 3.8l engine, but that car will run...over twice your total cost estimate. I've talked with Hans at Ruf Autocentre and they can do a Kompressor with a 3.8l swap in a Cayman, but the cost will be about the cost of the Cayman new (3.8l swap + Kompressor pkg). They have actually wanted to do one for a while, just no one has stepped up to the plate with the money to do it. Basically for the price of a 997 Turbo, you could have a Cayman S 3.8l Kompressor. Although this may seem expensive, keep in mind that it would be very exclusive since there aren't any others around.
The Kompressor is standard on the Ruf-Germany built RK-Cayman that includes the Carrera S' 3.8l engine, but that car will run...over twice your total cost estimate. I've talked with Hans at Ruf Autocentre and they can do a Kompressor with a 3.8l swap in a Cayman, but the cost will be about the cost of the Cayman new (3.8l swap + Kompressor pkg). They have actually wanted to do one for a while, just no one has stepped up to the plate with the money to do it. Basically for the price of a 997 Turbo, you could have a Cayman S 3.8l Kompressor. Although this may seem expensive, keep in mind that it would be very exclusive since there aren't any others around.
Let me follow up. I spoke with RUF autocentre and I got a different response.
"We are expecting a release of the Cayman Kompressor in the next few Weeks,
Pricing has not been made public at this Time, however we are expecting it
to be about the same than the 911 Kompressor Upgrades"
10-12-2006, 01:23 AM
#33
Absolutely no one on this forum will like this post...........but I have an 05 Cayenne S, 97 C2S, and 97 Boxster,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,all of which I love, but nothing compares to the C2S.........absolutely nothing...............maybe it's my love of the final extension of the true 911..........but I've driven a Cayman S.............and for the money, would still by a 993...........any day............not that the skin isn't beautiful, it certainly is........still, the 993 is an amazing auto that will never, but ought to, return>>>>>just my two cents.
10-12-2006, 10:31 AM
#34
Pro
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 738
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
i am with you porschenator// all of the new cars porsche makes are great,but the 993 is something special..i have had boxsters and currently own an 87 911...i test drove all the new cars and loved the 997 but its too damn much for my wallet...i liked the cayman s but did not love it, and for less money you could buy a mint condition 993 c2s..i would not think twice..j
10-12-2006, 02:20 PM
#36
Three Wheelin'
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Bremerton, WA
Posts: 1,438
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by 02 Carrera
Side note, I also find butt dynos to be complete inaccurate. Show me the gain on a chassis or engine dyno with a baseline and I'll believe it, otherwise you are just blowing smoke. I've learned this lesson from 3 experiences. I put a supercharger on one of my cars that felt fast, but I found out it was running 50% too rich and killing over 35 hp on the dyno. For another car, I had a intake kit that seemed to smoothen out the engine, but actually caused the car to lose 2 hp...yes, I took it right off. Last, although I did not expect it; I gained 22 hp at the wheels on a dynojet from adding a K&N 63-series intake and a Fabspeed Exhaust to my 996. In none of these situations did the butt dyno give the same indication the chassis dyno did.
I don't have a dog in this fight, just posing the question.
10-12-2006, 02:24 PM
#37
Three Wheelin'
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Bremerton, WA
Posts: 1,438
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by fezz
agreed, beautiful car.
10-12-2006, 10:39 PM
#38
Burning Brakes
i was smitten by an 83 SC - feel and sound, of course.
i dont know what the next p-car will be - likely 987S
but, major dilemas:
* old school v. new school (993 vs. box / croc)
* i'm clearly a minimalist - 944, 911
* i love technology (contradiction) (hide it from me - i dont want to see it)
* i'd like to be able to see the engine and stick my hand in once and a while. (and i dont own a lift.)
i dont know what the next p-car will be - likely 987S
but, major dilemas:
* old school v. new school (993 vs. box / croc)
* i'm clearly a minimalist - 944, 911
* i love technology (contradiction) (hide it from me - i dont want to see it)
* i'd like to be able to see the engine and stick my hand in once and a while. (and i dont own a lift.)
11-03-2006, 04:51 PM
#39
I'm driving a Cayman S right now while my 987 is in the shop. I really like the 6 speed and the car rides great. Power wise I don't see that much difference between my 987 and the CS. I drove an 01 Turbo day before yesterday and I must say that there is absolutely no comparison in the power output. The Turbo felt like it had 2-3x the amount of torque and acceleration over the CS. The CS I'm driving has a sticker of $60,725. My 987 with tax was $50k. I can't justify the price difference and I can put the top down on my 987. I could pick up a used Turbo for around $70k.
11-06-2006, 07:48 AM
#40
Originally Posted by discoganya
Huh? Aluminium stiffer than Steel? Aluminium has a Young's modulus of 70 GPa, Steel has 160. There is no alloy of Aluminium that can be made stiffer than steel. Now Carbon Fiber is a different beast ... (240 GPa).
