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Old 12-11-2015, 01:42 PM
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Default Looking to add a Cayman S as a DE / eventual track car

Ahhh, the insanity begins again. I currently have an '09 911 Turbo that we only drive a couple of thousand miles a year and has not yet been on the track.

I would like to get more into track days and possibly eventual club racing. I have considered the "normal" 944 route that many seem to take but I am also seriously considering a Cayman as an option. I have driven both a 987 (Autobahn through Porsche Travel Club) and a 981 (Porsche Precision school) and enjoyed both a great deal.

So, this leads me to the budget / 987.1 or .2 question. I have seen several interesting .1 cars that have had many of the reliability mods for track work already done but have yet to pull the trigger. I have also considered a .2 car but would like to be about $40k all in. Many of these are still in the 45-50k range.

I am in Ohio and will not need the car until the spring so there is little rush but OCD is starting to kick in and a choice will likely be made soon.

Anything else I need to consider? Where is the best sweet spot at this point for value vs performance?

Thanks,

Derek
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I have never driven one on the track but if you go to the Racing/Competition forum you will see that there is a whole new class of PCA Spec racing being started using the 987.1. Something to consider if your ultimate goal is to race. 987.2 S cars are hard to find below $40k in stock form.
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The general wisdom is 987.2 is better for track/DE due to the improved oiling in the 9A1 motor. But as noted above, if considering club racing the new SPC class is for 987.1. If I were starting into the addiction and reasonably certain about future club racing I would go 987.1 and do the mods for reliability early. There are also Caymans in GTB so may be worth looking into that too. I started in a 987.2 Cayman R and thinking about SPB and SPC.
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I've had both. I decided to not track my 987.1 and bought a .2 for DE. Given the price differences, .1 or .2 is a personal risk decision. Here are three links that will help you decide:

Good technical summary of .1 oil starvation problem
http://www.planet-9.com/987-cayman-a...sure-data.html

Good discussion of pros/cons of .1, .2
http://www.planet-9.com/987-cayman-a...r-gen1-cs.html

Cayman interseries using the 987.2
http://www.planet-9.com/the-cayman-i...e-learned.html

Good luck with your decision,
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Old 12-12-2015, 09:31 AM
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Thanks guys. Probably leaning toward a .2 with the right options.

On the surface, it looks like PASM could be very desirable in this situation but limits the selection significantly.

It seems like Sport Chrono is less important for a 6 speed car but important for a PDK one.
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I'm in the exact same boat as OP.

I have a PDK 987.2S being PPI'd as we speak.
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i have plenty of cayman s from all generations available
some needs repairs, some were repaired.

email me if your still looking
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Originally Posted by Derek978
Thanks guys. Probably leaning toward a .2 with the right options.

On the surface, it looks like PASM could be very desirable in this situation but limits the selection significantly.

It seems like Sport Chrono is less important for a 6 speed car but important for a PDK one.
That's right, PASM is somewhat rare. SC only changes the throttle response on a manual car. You can go aftermarket coilovers or the Cayman R suspension parts. At some point you'll want adjustable LCAs (GT3 or aftermarket) and/or camber plates to get more neg camber than stock parts allow. And it's never too early to plan safety gear- a few roll bar options out there. The GT2 seats are nice for a dual purpose street/DE car but pricey.
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The '05 997.1 in the classifieds for 38k is tempting as well. Thought I was set on a Cayman but the early 997 cars are getting close in price and have an appeal as well.
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Originally Posted by Derek978
Ahhh, the insanity begins again. I currently have an '09 911 Turbo that we only drive a couple of thousand miles a year and has not yet been on the track.


I am in Ohio and will not need the car until the spring so there is little rush but OCD is starting to kick in and a choice will likely be made soon.

Anything else I need to consider? Where is the best sweet spot at this point for value vs performance?

Thanks,

Derek
got one from your neck of the woods, AutoAssets in Powell Ohio. Call Chip and talk to him

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I saw that car but it is no longer on their site. I will check with them but it looks like it might be sold.
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I read these threads and consider myself extremely lucky. I hope you can find the right car.

I am overjoyed to have an 09 Cayman S with PASM, LSD, SSK, full leather and Turbo II 19" wheels. And of course that lovely 9A1 motor. She loves the shorter technical tracks! I only wish it had PSE, but lots of exhaust options out there.
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Ended up with this one:

https://rennlist.com/forums/vehicle-...rack-prep.html

I will pick her up Tuesday.
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Great car, congrats! Looks like you got a good deal given the mileage and track mods already done. I picked up my 06 Cayman S in October and love it. Given I’m now starting to do all the mods for DE work that you are starting with I’m a bit jealous! Hope you enjoy it on the track.
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Originally Posted by Derek978
Ended up with this one: https://rennlist.com/forums/vehicle-...rack-prep.html I will pick her up Tuesday.
Congrats - looks like a great find!

If you plan to track it often, I would recommend installation of a power steering cooler, under drive pulley and the Motorsport AOS. There are also some very cheap front GT3 brake cooling deflectors that (if not installed yet) are great value for the cost.


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