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981 GT4 vs 991.1 GT3 => which one would you buy used and why?

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Old 01-15-2018, 11:51 AM
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I found the info about the central wheel lock replacement I was not aware of. So this counts only for the miles driven on track? Does this mean people who don't drive on track don't need to replace them? Any idea about the pricing of these two procedures? Is this correct?

From the research I've been doing, it's around $5k for the smaller service and double for the bigger one.
Old 01-15-2018, 11:54 AM
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Hub maintenance is more than a visual inspection. It's a significant amount of work on each hub and a replacement of the center locks themselves. I'd have to go back and look but I think the cost is about $6K per axle. Interval is different for front and rear. I can send more detail if you want. But 6K track miles is a lot - for me that would have been every three years probably.
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Well you just posted it!
Old 01-15-2018, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by tstafford
Hub maintenance is more than a visual inspection. It's a significant amount of work on each hub and a replacement of the center locks themselves. I'd have to go back and look but I think the cost is about $6K per axle. Interval is different for front and rear. I can send more detail if you want. But 6K track miles is a lot - for me that would have been every three years probably.
Indeed....it's a lot when I think about it and you only have to count the track miles. When buying a used GT3; I just need to know if it has been on a track a lot. It's not the end of the world this hub maintenance...it's after every 500 laps on the Nurburgring So I have to tell my Porsche dealer then that I track my GT3

the cost is around 5k installed for the new rear hubs and the four center lock bolts. There always seems to be some confusion around road miles and track miles - everyone needs to be keeping a log of their track miles so they know when to do the maintenance.
Old 01-15-2018, 12:38 PM
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Owned a 991.1 GT3 and got tired of hearing about the engine problems. I traded the GT3 with 12,000 miles for a loaded GT4 with 170 miles and CPO which is now at 16,000 miles. The only thing I miss about the GT3 is the sound on the 7k-9k run.

I've added a set of Dundon headers, TPC's rear toe links and their DSC box to the GT4. With a street/track alignment the car is fun to drive anywhere I go. I am very happy with this car and I've owned it for almost 2 years which is something of a record with me.

There have been a few 991.1 GT3s come up that were attractively priced with low mileage which made me pause and think about getting one again. However, I've decided to stay with the GT4. It's a lot of bang for the buck.
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I would say GT3, and I am a die hard manual Luddite, based on performance only. But I am not into the Faux center locks and the equipment and PITA to change tires. So my vote is GT4, I had a Cayman GTS and throughly enjoyed the handling and driving experience, so no Center Locks and Manual Trans makes the GT4 my choice.

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Old 01-15-2018, 01:11 PM
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^I agree with Peter.... between the two choices above, my first instinct is the GT4. I love the GT4 but the GT3.1 is still a winner so can't really go wrong with either or. Plus it's obvious the GT3 cars are more powerful/faster anyway so that's moot... it's the driver's car experience that has the (underappreciated nowadays?) GT4 still garnering praises. Now if you ask me about GT3.2 vs. the GT4, then I'd pick the GT3.2 all day long... that new 4.0 motorsport spec engine is sublime, pure bliss.
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GT4 is a cool car but I'd take the GT3 for sure. that engine is awesome (with the ten year warranty even better). way more exciting all around imo.
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Just be prepared to not have much fun on the road with the gt3, but faster on track. Gt4 fun on road and fun on track, slower on track.
Old 01-15-2018, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by CAlexio
Just be prepared to not have much fun on the road with the gt3, but faster on track. Gt4 fun on road and fun on track, slower on track.
This is how I see the comparison between the two also... My manual M2 is great fun on the road; even at legal speeds. If I did not have this M2 as a daily, but had something normal and less exiting then I would probably buy the GT4 as the second fun/track car...
Old 01-15-2018, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by sampelligrino
IMO I didn't have to read anything other than the subject title to vote for the 991.1 GT3 lol, I will take a 911 over a Cayman every day of the week and twice on Sundays....
And I would take a GT4 over any non R or GT 911 any day of the week and 4 times on Sundays.
Old 01-15-2018, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by CAlexio
Just be prepared to not have much fun on the road with the gt3, but faster on track. Gt4 fun on road and fun on track, slower on track.
pretty fair assessment.

the other point is with OP dd'ing an M2 the GT4 doesn't really move the goal posts very much in terms of performance. GT3 does.
Old 01-15-2018, 06:07 PM
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If the $30-$40k difference in price is no object then I would def go with GT3.1. Not a bad choice either way.
Old 01-15-2018, 09:37 PM
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With that extended warranty being offered on the .1 gt3 it's no doubt the better buy. I love the gt4 but the 991.1 gt3 is the superior car.
Old 01-16-2018, 01:42 AM
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Drove my buddy's GT4 the other day (he has 3 GT3's as well) and all I have to say is - great car and would be amazing if not corrupted by 911's - it all comes down to motor. Not even in the same ballpark as 3.8 GT3, in a matter of fact my old 991.1 c2s manual felt quicker actually (chassis not as good) so not even a really valid comparison GT3 is in a different league.
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