"practical" GT3 replacement
#61
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^Thanks for the info on the M4. I think it looks great but I've heard the engine sound is pretty lame. I'm not looking for something I will have to modify.
I'm going to test drive an M2 Thursday it's not a manual or a competition model but hopefully will give me some idea about the car. The interior looked a bit basic but that may be ok I'll have to see. My old C63 was hard to beat for sound and fun around town.
May have to just keep the GT3 for a while longer it's not so bad after all.
I'm going to test drive an M2 Thursday it's not a manual or a competition model but hopefully will give me some idea about the car. The interior looked a bit basic but that may be ok I'll have to see. My old C63 was hard to beat for sound and fun around town.
May have to just keep the GT3 for a while longer it's not so bad after all.
#62
I think I've gotten the GT3 bug out of my system. Has anyone had experience with the BMW M4 with competition package and manual transmission? I have never had an M spec BMW before. I don't trust the usual internet reviews and was hoping for some real experience.
I looked at the Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio and wasn't to impressed another option is a C63 coupe It's heavy though and I don't really want a big glass sunroof but the engine probably makes up for that although it's now turbo the sound is still great. My last c63 was a blast though with the huge naturally aspirated V8 . I'm looking for something fun on the street in the $80k range and thought a manual transmission would but nice for a change.
Any insight on the M4 would be appreciated.
thanks, mike
I looked at the Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio and wasn't to impressed another option is a C63 coupe It's heavy though and I don't really want a big glass sunroof but the engine probably makes up for that although it's now turbo the sound is still great. My last c63 was a blast though with the huge naturally aspirated V8 . I'm looking for something fun on the street in the $80k range and thought a manual transmission would but nice for a change.
Any insight on the M4 would be appreciated.
thanks, mike
I recently bought a 2018 M4 with a competition package as a daily driver. Still have my manual GT3. To the M4 I added Dinan engine tuning (stage 3, 575hp) and suspension upgrades (coilovers, sway bars and rear links). All under warranty. It is now a phenomenal car. I did not like manual so I went with the PDK. I added some carbon fiber arrow components. It’s a blast to drive and very good lookin. PM me if you want more info
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I think I've gotten the GT3 bug out of my system. Has anyone had experience with the BMW M4 with competition package and manual transmission? I have never had an M spec BMW before. I don't trust the usual internet reviews and was hoping for some real experience.
I looked at the Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio and wasn't to impressed another option is a C63 coupe It's heavy though and I don't really want a big glass sunroof but the engine probably makes up for that although it's now turbo the sound is still great. My last c63 was a blast though with the huge naturally aspirated V8 . I'm looking for something fun on the street in the $80k range and thought a manual transmission would but nice for a change.
Any insight on the M4 would be appreciated.
thanks, mike
I looked at the Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio and wasn't to impressed another option is a C63 coupe It's heavy though and I don't really want a big glass sunroof but the engine probably makes up for that although it's now turbo the sound is still great. My last c63 was a blast though with the huge naturally aspirated V8 . I'm looking for something fun on the street in the $80k range and thought a manual transmission would but nice for a change.
Any insight on the M4 would be appreciated.
thanks, mike
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For fun road use, I prefer my '11 C63 and 997 C2S over the GT3. For track use, the GT3 is the winner by a big margin.
#66
The reason it is low money is that it looks and feels cheap, IMHO. I tried one years ago when I was looking for my first 911, and it almost turned me off 911s completely. Going from a GT3 to a 996 has to be some kind of punishment for something bad you did in a previous life.
#67
If BMW, I vote for the new M2 Competition.
Re the hot hatch group: STI is an old design (and a bit homely being sedan only); the Golf R is a bit too grown up and boring; the Civic Type R styling makes me vomit. I bought a Ford (first Ford I’ve had in twenty years) Focus RS. I’m 52 and will likely give it to my son when he turns 16 in just under two years. Car is a lot of fun and I’m racking up the miles due to lots of youth sports activities/travel.
Course, you could always buy a Forester or something.
https://www.bmw-m.com/en/topics/maga...mpetition.html
#68
love the GTR— the M4 exhaust is just awful unless they’ve fixed it on late models, like bolts in a clothes dryer but otherwise cool car , love my ‘08 e92 M3 with V8.... Bimmerpost has a few low mileage ones for sale...
#69
The M4 competition model for 2018 has a great sounding exhaust. They even offer added option for a high performance exhaust. Mine has great sound but also has the Dinan tune which enhances the sound and performance.
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I had two E46 M3's back in the day, amazing car, great fun, one of my all-time favorites to this day. The F80 platform is just plain bad. Chassis feels big and numb. Steering sucks. Engine behaves like a diesel, and when you do get to the top-end it's a big disappointment of Excitebike noises. It sounds incredibly horrible inside. Interior is meh, you don't feel like you're in something special. The only thing the F80 M3 has going for it is it looks good. Beautiful car. The E9X M3 is far superior, I just stayed away because I didn't want to be a contestant on the Rod-Bearing lottery.
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Loooved my E46, but it was a ticking time bomb.
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Had both my E46 M3 subframes inspected at 43,000 and 28,000 respectively, no issues. Albeit, I did sell them once they were out of warranty. There was a class action lawsuit which remedied and repaired it, and it wasn't nearly as widespread as the S65 Rod-bearing issue that has plagued the E9X series.
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I knew there was a reason my M3 kept needing repairs .... now with the M2 BMW has perfected their 'breaking system':
https://www.bmw-m.com/en/topics/maga...mpetition.html
https://www.bmw-m.com/en/topics/maga...mpetition.html
#74
M4 still sounds like utter digital garbage inside the cabin. It's worse than Nintendo 8-bit.
I had two E46 M3's back in the day, amazing car, great fun, one of my all-time favorites to this day. The F80 platform is just plain bad. Chassis feels big and numb. Steering sucks. Engine behaves like a diesel, and when you do get to the top-end it's a big disappointment of Excitebike noises. It sounds incredibly horrible inside. Interior is meh, you don't feel like you're in something special. The only thing the F80 M3 has going for it is it looks good. Beautiful car. The E9X M3 is far superior, I just stayed away because I didn't want to be a contestant on the Rod-Bearing lottery.
I had two E46 M3's back in the day, amazing car, great fun, one of my all-time favorites to this day. The F80 platform is just plain bad. Chassis feels big and numb. Steering sucks. Engine behaves like a diesel, and when you do get to the top-end it's a big disappointment of Excitebike noises. It sounds incredibly horrible inside. Interior is meh, you don't feel like you're in something special. The only thing the F80 M3 has going for it is it looks good. Beautiful car. The E9X M3 is far superior, I just stayed away because I didn't want to be a contestant on the Rod-Bearing lottery.
#75
Had both my E46 M3 subframes inspected at 43,000 and 28,000 respectively, no issues. Albeit, I did sell them once they were out of warranty. There was a class action lawsuit which remedied and repaired it, and it wasn't nearly as widespread as the S65 Rod-bearing issue that has plagued the E9X series.