GT3 vs. GT4 - Can only have 1
11-01-2018, 09:35 AM
#1
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GT3 vs. GT4 - Can only have 1
So I’m a long time lurker here. Been reading about the GT4 here before it was announced & just a cleaning lady rumor. Repeat with the whole 4.0L .2 GT3. I’m hoping to get some help with my dilemma:
Long story short, I’m looking to buy one Porsche and keep it for the next 10-20 years.
GT3 or GT4?
Both are well within my means, but I’m at a crossroads in my head. If I buy the GT4 I’ll always regret not getting the bigger brother 4.0L race engine. But if I buy the GT3 I might regret spending 2 times the amount than the GT4 and probably won’t track the GT3 as hard for fear of “breaking” it.
I’ve always dreamed of the day I could walk up and buy a P-Car without breaking a sweat, but now that it’s here, I’m nothing but stressed about which one to choose!!! Help friendly fellow Rennlisters!
Long story short, I’m looking to buy one Porsche and keep it for the next 10-20 years.
GT3 or GT4?
Both are well within my means, but I’m at a crossroads in my head. If I buy the GT4 I’ll always regret not getting the bigger brother 4.0L race engine. But if I buy the GT3 I might regret spending 2 times the amount than the GT4 and probably won’t track the GT3 as hard for fear of “breaking” it.
I’ve always dreamed of the day I could walk up and buy a P-Car without breaking a sweat, but now that it’s here, I’m nothing but stressed about which one to choose!!! Help friendly fellow Rennlisters!
11-01-2018, 09:49 AM
#2
Nordschleife Master
if you can get a GT3, by all means do
if you can get a RS over a GT3...also do
get the grass is greener on the other side of the fence over with....you can always go back to GT4
track either of them and you will eventually come to the conclusion a dedicated track car makes sense, with a real cage. All cars that go on the track eventually crash, driver error or mechanical
if you can get a RS over a GT3...also do
get the grass is greener on the other side of the fence over with....you can always go back to GT4
track either of them and you will eventually come to the conclusion a dedicated track car makes sense, with a real cage. All cars that go on the track eventually crash, driver error or mechanical
11-01-2018, 10:12 AM
#4
Depends on what you are looking for. I can speak to my process of elimination. I was looking for a “rawer” 911, sorta like the 911r, that will be a weekend car and occasional track car, once I learnt that the gt3 will have a 6 speed, I canceled my RS order and switched. Could not be happier with the car.
11-01-2018, 10:19 AM
#5
Burning Brakes
if you can get a GT3, by all means do
if you can get a RS over a GT3...also do
get the grass is greener on the other side of the fence over with....you can always go back to GT4
track either of them and you will eventually come to the conclusion a dedicated track car makes sense, with a real cage. All cars that go on the track eventually crash, driver error or mechanical
if you can get a RS over a GT3...also do
get the grass is greener on the other side of the fence over with....you can always go back to GT4
track either of them and you will eventually come to the conclusion a dedicated track car makes sense, with a real cage. All cars that go on the track eventually crash, driver error or mechanical
11-01-2018, 10:23 AM
#6
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Got the gt4 for the last 2 years.. 22000km and a lot of fun around Italy and Europe ... Sold for a fair price to my dealer and bought a new manual gt3 with a good discount... Driven it for 5000 km in the last 5 months.... The gt3 is another story ... The engine is from a different league... No regrets for me
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11-01-2018, 11:24 AM
#9
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Only two things I like over the Gt3 is feel of balance of mid-engine on track (every other performance advantage goes to Gt3), but more importantly, the care-free feeling of owning a car I just don't care THAT much about "consuming it". I'm not aware of another track focused car near gt4 price tag that is more capable, dependable, similar depreciation, running cost, more utility, etc. in the fun/$, you can't touch a gt4 imo. Money aside, Gt3 blows it away.
11-01-2018, 11:34 AM
#10
I have done significant track time in both cars. Although the GT4 is a great car, Hands-down happier with the GT3 as a dual purpose car. Agree with what’s been said that if you’re going to track a lot, dedicated track car is definitely the way to go. A used GT4 clubsport would be ideal. Lots of safety, great platform to grow into a great driver and much less maintenance costs than a cup car. Next generation of Clubsports are about to be released and there will likely be some really great deals out there.
11-01-2018, 11:42 AM
#11
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I prefer the heavier clutch on the GT4. The GT3's clutch is a bit light in my opinion. Outside of that, the power, sound, interior & exterior of the GT3 would be my choice if you can afford either of them.
11-01-2018, 11:46 AM
#12
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Coming from a current GT4 owner, GT3 all the way if you can afford it and you have the skill to exploit it. However, 100k buys a lot of track time, tires, brakes and modifcations.
11-01-2018, 11:46 AM
#13
Racer
Some questions:
How important is track time to you? Will you be tracking regularly, or only once or twice a year? If you're only going a few times a year, might as well go for the GT3.
How much of a factor is the cost in consumables to you? GT4 is lighter with less power, so will use less tire and brake than the GT3. And starts with smaller wheels/tires in the first place. Also, more choices in wheels (thus more inexpensive options) with the GT4 than with centerlock GT3 wheels.
How important is practicality? GT3 is more practical by good margin.
Have you looked into track day insurance? That might be the way to assuage your concerns about wadding up a GT3. But as others have said, if you're gonna be tracking a lot, at some point a dedicated track car makes a lot of sense.
How important is track time to you? Will you be tracking regularly, or only once or twice a year? If you're only going a few times a year, might as well go for the GT3.
How much of a factor is the cost in consumables to you? GT4 is lighter with less power, so will use less tire and brake than the GT3. And starts with smaller wheels/tires in the first place. Also, more choices in wheels (thus more inexpensive options) with the GT4 than with centerlock GT3 wheels.
How important is practicality? GT3 is more practical by good margin.
Have you looked into track day insurance? That might be the way to assuage your concerns about wadding up a GT3. But as others have said, if you're gonna be tracking a lot, at some point a dedicated track car makes a lot of sense.
11-01-2018, 11:47 AM
#14
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I would say that up to 8/10's that the GT4 is just as fun on the road and track (in some ways even better due to smaller more intimate size and pointy handling). But when really pushing, the GT3 has additional layers of performance and personality. The GT4 just isn't as beguiling on the track (the wheel size stagger and suspension make it tend to terminal understeer) and the extra 1,200 rpm at the top of the GT3's tach are fantastic (and they're the reason that the GT3's gearing is better as well).
If you don't envision being able (or interested) to exploit these differences, then the GT4 is a good choice.
If you don't envision being able (or interested) to exploit these differences, then the GT4 is a good choice.
11-01-2018, 11:51 AM
#15
Recently sold my GT4 and purchased a used GT3.
I bought a 2008 997.1 - I was looking for a more analog, unfiltered car, old school driving experience.
GT4 is a great car with very few flaws but I was ready for something different.
I bought a 2008 997.1 - I was looking for a more analog, unfiltered car, old school driving experience.
GT4 is a great car with very few flaws but I was ready for something different.