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Old 07-31-2019, 11:47 PM
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James, was great catching up with you at the paddock! What a story, to arrive without your gear and still manage to get out there for FP and R!!

Part of me wished I would've taken delivery of my CS to run this event with you guys. The 24H was the toughest endurance I've driven--extra track time in the GT2 event prior to could've helped, but in a way it wouldn't have done anything to prepare us for the MAD traffic and weather conditions... in any case I'm glad I scooted over to see all the eyecandy and catch up with a few drivers!

There was a whole host of discussion re: performance gap between the Cup, CS, 935 and GT3R before. I think this is what I can observe for qual times at Spa:
  • 991.2 Cup (Mich N2) 2:24
  • GT2RSCS (Mich N2) 2:22
  • 935 (Mich N2) 2:21
  • 991.2 GT3R (Pirelli DHD2) 2:20
I'm not counting the superpole times from Spa24 which saw the 991.2 R hit :18s. (Or the Porsche Supercup qual in the :22s) One needs to understand the level of skill and commitment to clock a 19 let alone 18 at Spa. IMO that really is beyond the realm of most everyone on this forum, myself included...

That said, it's been an impressive debut for the GT2 cars and a weekend to remember!!

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Originally Posted by CRex
The 24H was the toughest endurance I've driven--extra track time in the GT2 event prior to could've helped, but in a way it wouldn't have done anything to prepare us for the MAD traffic and weather conditions... in any case I'm glad I scooted over to see all the eyecandy and catch up with a few drivers!

There was a whole host of discussion re: performance gap between the Cup, CS, 935 and GT3R before. I think this is what I can observe for qual times at Spa:
  • 991.2 Cup (Mich N2) 2:24
  • GT2RSCS (Mich N2) 2:22
  • 935 (Mich N2) 2:21
  • 991.2 GT3R (Pirelli) 2:20
Must have been quite a tough experience racing this year the 24H in those conditions

Not a precise science, but taking the same driver is probably more accurate... 2:22.5 in qualifying Supercup at Spa and a 2:20.2 on a GT3R during quali at the 24Hours. The gap is probably closer to 2-2.5s seconds between these 2 cars which puts the RSCS at the same level more or less as a 991.2 Cup.

For a first time in Spa, James has had an unbelievable result compared to the rest of drivers who have been racing there for several years. Congrats.

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Originally Posted by Jean
For a first time in Spa, James has had an unbelievable result compared to the rest of drivers who have been racing there for several years. Congrats.
I echo that. In somebody else's helmet and suit no less!

You should watch the first corner of Race 1. James took down a sitting Le Mans GTE-Am champion just like that. Some rockstar stuff!!
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Originally Posted by CRex
I echo that. In somebody else's helmet and suit no less!

You should watch the first corner of Race 1. James took down a sitting Le Mans GTE-Am champion just like that. Some rockstar stuff!!
I did see it, in an interview he mentioned he was shocked and never saw it coming... amazing start from James
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Agreed...SPA is the best track on earth.....truly memorable.
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Old 08-01-2019, 12:02 PM
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Wow!!! Living the dream is understatement... Thanks for taking the time to post your trip and experience with the new car. Spa is incredible and to be in the mix with the newest kit from Porsche must have been really special.
Old 08-01-2019, 06:22 PM
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Thanks for all the positive comments guys, and yes, it certainly was an amazing experience!
Great to see you as well CRex, next year we race together! :-) And hats off to you racing in that rain, WOW.
We got lucky in our race with the rain coming down just at the end, I quickly turned the TC back on and tried to hustle that podium spot, needed one more lap! hahaha. (Isn't that what we all say!)

One other thought after driving the GT2RS CS, it's SOOO MUCH EASIER to drive at the limit and get to max speed in that car vs a Cup or a GT3R. That is one of the big pluses that PMNA is touting regarding the car. For instance, I am pretty sure than an AM driver can get much closer to a Pro's lap time in the GT2RS CS vs a Cup or a GT3R. I had many conversations at Spa with Porsche Management and that was a big selling point for this platform. In some cases, if you take an AM driver at a track like Road America, Rd Atlanta or WG, I bet you they may go faster in the GT2RS CS vs a GT3R........just my 2 cents.......
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Very cool livery! That red line front splitter, mirrors and wing make that car really stand out and easy to find.
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Originally Posted by CRex
There was a whole host of discussion re: performance gap between the Cup, CS, 935 and GT3R before. I think this is what I can observe for qual times at Spa:
  • 991.2 Cup (Mich N2) 2:24
  • GT2RSCS (Mich N2) 2:22
  • 935 (Mich N2) 2:21
  • 991.2 GT3R (Pirelli) 2:20
I'm not counting the superpole times from Spa24 which saw the 991.2 R hit :18s. One needs to understand the level of skill and commitment to clock a 19 let alone 18 at Spa. IMO that really is beyond the realm of most everyone on this forum, myself included...
Much appreciated for taking the time to post the above. Pretty interesting those times.
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James you did an amazing job of driving, especially since you've never driven at Spa!
I thought you where going to win the 1st race - great timing at the start - and good finish in the second race. The GT2RS CS & 935's all look amazing! They don't sound like a GT3R or Cup Car, but they still tick all the boxes to a Porsche nut.
Keep it up.

Oh...& I love your GMG LMS Roll cage in my 991.1GT3 - great products!
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Looks like you had a great time, James!

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Originally Posted by CRex
I echo that. In somebody else's helmet and suit no less!

You should watch the first corner of Race 1. James took down a sitting Le Mans GTE-Am champion just like that. Some rockstar stuff!!
Agreed, that was a pretty epic move right off the bat.
Old 08-02-2019, 11:43 AM
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Great wheelin, just amazing on a first visit there. You're taking after Schumacher in the Jordan.

Please continue to post content like this as the series progresses. Looks like it has the makings of a future classic series.
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Default Tire Dimensions for CS and 935

Originally Posted by James-GMG
The biggest advantage the 935 has is the bigger front wheel/tire which gives the car more front grip, something the GT2RS CS could use.
Add the additional downforce, which really helps in sector 2, and the 935 was good for 1-2 more seconds per lap.
James, do you know the tire dimensions for the CS as well as the 935? I don't have my CS yet, and will wait until the PWC season is over before I take delivery.

Thanks
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Porsche press page states
935
F: 27/65-R18 on 10.5Jx18 ET28; R: 31/71-R18 on 12.5Jx18 ET46
911 GT2 RS CS
F: 29/65-R18 on 11.5Jx18 ET15.3; R: 31/71-R18 on 13Jx18 ET-10



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