991.2 GT3 - P dealer's won't negotiate?
#61
Race Director
Uh ya. If you are pinning your hopes on XOM for a Porsche, for sure no fun. However, the dollar is weakening significantly - so its gonna take more dollars to buy a barrel of oil (price rise bc oil is traded in US dollars) i.e. bullish. Also a huge amount of production has been shut in i.e. bullish. Also, capital investment/budgets have been slashed to the bone i.e. bullish. Also, investors at the moment hate hydrocarbon businesses i.e. bullish (because the stocks have been left by the curb for trash pickup). The Saudi's are firmly in control vis-a-vis Russia. The only think missing from this powder keg is meaningful demand. Oil will have its day again and as usual it will be a violent ride back up when it happens. Now of course that will make TSLA become more valuable too Haha. Oil guys love Porsches so not sure what your point is but mine is a giant transfer of wealth event is great for the high end car market no matter how you look at it. The wealth didn't disappear into thin air - it was transferred. Someone else now has it. Maybe they like cars too
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#63
Instructor
I went thru the same process as I was going thru trying to find 991.2 GT3. I just took delivery of Graphite Blue couple of weeks ago. Many dealers arent budging but hard to find some of the more conservative colors. Several Birch Green and Acid Greens out there that have been sitting for some time. As others said, the more popular colors like Chalk get snatched up pretty quickly. I was looking at a Signal Yellow that had sat at the dealer for 1 year!!!
Buyers have to sit tight and just wait for the one they want, it will happen.
Buyers have to sit tight and just wait for the one they want, it will happen.
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#64
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Buyers have to sit tight and just wait for the one they want, it will happen.[/QUOTE]
Agree with the first part of this statement but the question is what do you do when the one presents itself...ie if you are looking for a loaded graphite blue or signal yellow low mile example with pccbs, LWBS, manual, full leather- do you offer $10K back of a reasonable ask and risk someone else buying it and not seeing another one like it again for months or do you buy it and enjoy it? In reference to the OP- im in favor of the latter-
Agree with the first part of this statement but the question is what do you do when the one presents itself...ie if you are looking for a loaded graphite blue or signal yellow low mile example with pccbs, LWBS, manual, full leather- do you offer $10K back of a reasonable ask and risk someone else buying it and not seeing another one like it again for months or do you buy it and enjoy it? In reference to the OP- im in favor of the latter-
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BayArea510 (08-07-2020)
#65
Race Director
If you find your self; your Unicorn- you jump on it before it flies away
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#66
Instructor
Agree with the first part of this statement but the question is what do you do when the one presents itself...ie if you are looking for a loaded graphite blue or signal yellow low mile example with pccbs, LWBS, manual, full leather- do you offer $10K back of a reasonable ask and risk someone else buying it and not seeing another one like it again for months or do you buy it and enjoy it? In reference to the OP- im in favor of the latter-
absolutely right! Its funny that you mention those two colors (GBM and Signal Yellow). Because those were the exact two cars I was looking at. Both fully loaded but my GBM has extended leather package and the color is amazing. I offere 5K off of the asking and he was not having anything to do with it so I gave him asking price right off the bat. Although it wasnt a dealer and price was reasonable bottom line is when you are paying north of 140-150, that 10k wont make a difference later but you will always say what if.......
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Saw the listing for your Graphite Blue GT3 when it was a private party listing and then a couple of weeks later from a NE dealer...beautiful car, great build. If only it was a local car...congrats on the acquisition! The price was more than reasonable- if you had held your ground at $5K under ask it would have sold and you would be berating yourself today for not pulling the trigger (pardon the psychoanalysis
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#70
The car showed up two weeks later on a different dealer's site. Closed the deal within a matter of days. While second dealer was more reasonable than the first, I wasn't going to let my unicorn get away for the second time.
Last edited by seatactony; 08-07-2020 at 10:50 AM.
#71
Three Wheelin'
So what's the going rate for a loaded but not bloated one (17x-180ish msrp) with couple thousands mile, 20-25k under sounds good deal?
#72
With the huge market bubble / disconnect with reality....you might also be smart to be patient
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#74
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Just sat & read through the thread over a scotch. My car is NOT for sale but based on some of the comments here, wondering what some of you think my car is worth on the open market. 2019 w/ 5,xxx miles $180k msrp.
BASE 911 GT3
082 Extended Range Fuel Tank, 23.7 gal
3H Chalk
450 Porsche Ceramic Composite Brakes (PCCB)
474 Front axle lift system
581 Luggage net in passenger footwell
583 Smoking package
630 Light Design Package
78 Leather/AlcantaraŽ Interior in Black with Platinum Grey Stitching
810 Floor Mats
9VL BoseŽ Surround Sound System
P11 Full bucket seats
P13 Automatically dimming mirrors with integrated rain sensor
P1B Interior Trim in Anthracite Brushed Aluminum i.c.w. Leather Interior
QH1 Voice Control
QR5 Chrono Package with Preparation for Lap Trigger
XAJ Side Skirts Painted in Exterior Color
XDH Wheels Painted in Satin Platinum
XEY LED Headlights in Black with Porsche Dynamic Light System (PDLS)
XLJ Storage Compartment Lid in AlcantaraŽ with Porsche Crest
XNS Steering column casing in leather
XUB Headlight cleaning system covers painted in exterior color
XYB Fuel Cap with Aluminum Look Finish
BASE 911 GT3
082 Extended Range Fuel Tank, 23.7 gal
3H Chalk
450 Porsche Ceramic Composite Brakes (PCCB)
474 Front axle lift system
581 Luggage net in passenger footwell
583 Smoking package
630 Light Design Package
78 Leather/AlcantaraŽ Interior in Black with Platinum Grey Stitching
810 Floor Mats
9VL BoseŽ Surround Sound System
P11 Full bucket seats
P13 Automatically dimming mirrors with integrated rain sensor
P1B Interior Trim in Anthracite Brushed Aluminum i.c.w. Leather Interior
QH1 Voice Control
QR5 Chrono Package with Preparation for Lap Trigger
XAJ Side Skirts Painted in Exterior Color
XDH Wheels Painted in Satin Platinum
XEY LED Headlights in Black with Porsche Dynamic Light System (PDLS)
XLJ Storage Compartment Lid in AlcantaraŽ with Porsche Crest
XNS Steering column casing in leather
XUB Headlight cleaning system covers painted in exterior color
XYB Fuel Cap with Aluminum Look Finish
#75
Just sat & read through the thread over a scotch. My car is NOT for sale but based on some of the comments here, wondering what some of you think my car is worth on the open market. 2019 w/ 5,xxx miles $180k msrp.
BASE 911 GT3
082 Extended Range Fuel Tank, 23.7 gal
3H Chalk
450 Porsche Ceramic Composite Brakes (PCCB)
474 Front axle lift system
581 Luggage net in passenger footwell
583 Smoking package
630 Light Design Package
78 Leather/AlcantaraŽ Interior in Black with Platinum Grey Stitching
810 Floor Mats
9VL BoseŽ Surround Sound System
P11 Full bucket seats
P13 Automatically dimming mirrors with integrated rain sensor
P1B Interior Trim in Anthracite Brushed Aluminum i.c.w. Leather Interior
QH1 Voice Control
QR5 Chrono Package with Preparation for Lap Trigger
XAJ Side Skirts Painted in Exterior Color
XDH Wheels Painted in Satin Platinum
XEY LED Headlights in Black with Porsche Dynamic Light System (PDLS)
XLJ Storage Compartment Lid in AlcantaraŽ with Porsche Crest
XNS Steering column casing in leather
XUB Headlight cleaning system covers painted in exterior color
XYB Fuel Cap with Aluminum Look Finish
BASE 911 GT3
082 Extended Range Fuel Tank, 23.7 gal
3H Chalk
450 Porsche Ceramic Composite Brakes (PCCB)
474 Front axle lift system
581 Luggage net in passenger footwell
583 Smoking package
630 Light Design Package
78 Leather/AlcantaraŽ Interior in Black with Platinum Grey Stitching
810 Floor Mats
9VL BoseŽ Surround Sound System
P11 Full bucket seats
P13 Automatically dimming mirrors with integrated rain sensor
P1B Interior Trim in Anthracite Brushed Aluminum i.c.w. Leather Interior
QH1 Voice Control
QR5 Chrono Package with Preparation for Lap Trigger
XAJ Side Skirts Painted in Exterior Color
XDH Wheels Painted in Satin Platinum
XEY LED Headlights in Black with Porsche Dynamic Light System (PDLS)
XLJ Storage Compartment Lid in AlcantaraŽ with Porsche Crest
XNS Steering column casing in leather
XUB Headlight cleaning system covers painted in exterior color
XYB Fuel Cap with Aluminum Look Finish
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