Disappointed in GT3 Touring - Can't Double Clutch Rev Match!!
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catdog2 (06-24-2023)
06-24-2023, 12:10 PM
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I miss it already and maybe I will go back to one with lower miles but I am enjoying the apparently better throttle response and possibly lighter flywheel (subjective) and smoother engine in 992 but again it has <450 miles and could be my imagination. Sometimes you wake up one day and decide, screw it, I can't deal with inability to determine whether car is right or off and that's what happened.. 991.2 GT3 Touring is a classic and will continue to appreciate, I got a bad specimen engine vibration wise, everything else in the car was PERFECT, clutch, transmission, handling, etc.
06-24-2023, 12:44 PM
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MKIVdan (06-25-2023)
06-24-2023, 07:43 PM
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@Bruce911_ Yep no doubt the 991.2 GT3 touring is a great car, and I did drive it more than my .2 3RS but in the end I couldn't deal with the vibrations in my sample. I will be on lookout for a low mileage one in the future. For now, I am done with it if that makes sense.
The throttle response of the 992 GT3 is more pure crisp and clean and there is less interference from the flat shift software during double clutching etc; the manual gearbox action is nice and clean.
I followed your dilemna with picking between generations and applauded your choosing the 991.2 GT3T variant. Maybe I come around like you at some point.
Boomers unite !
The throttle response of the 992 GT3 is more pure crisp and clean and there is less interference from the flat shift software during double clutching etc; the manual gearbox action is nice and clean.
I followed your dilemna with picking between generations and applauded your choosing the 991.2 GT3T variant. Maybe I come around like you at some point.
Boomers unite !
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Apex Ace (06-26-2023)
06-24-2023, 08:37 PM
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@Bruce911_ Yep no doubt the 991.2 GT3 touring is a great car, and I did drive it more than my .2 3RS but in the end I couldn't deal with the vibrations in my sample. I will be on lookout for a low mileage one in the future. For now, I am done with it if that makes sense.
The throttle response of the 992 GT3 is more pure crisp and clean and there is less interference from the flat shift software during double clutching etc; the manual gearbox action is nice and clean.
I followed your dilemna with picking between generations and applauded your choosing the 991.2 GT3T variant. Maybe I come around like you at some point.
Boomers unite !
The throttle response of the 992 GT3 is more pure crisp and clean and there is less interference from the flat shift software during double clutching etc; the manual gearbox action is nice and clean.
I followed your dilemna with picking between generations and applauded your choosing the 991.2 GT3T variant. Maybe I come around like you at some point.
Boomers unite !
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catdog2 (06-25-2023)
06-25-2023, 10:45 AM
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@Bruce911_ Yep no doubt the 991.2 GT3 touring is a great car, and I did drive it more than my .2 3RS but in the end I couldn't deal with the vibrations in my sample. I will be on lookout for a low mileage one in the future. For now, I am done with it if that makes sense.
The throttle response of the 992 GT3 is more pure crisp and clean and there is less interference from the flat shift software during double clutching etc; the manual gearbox action is nice and clean.
I followed your dilemna with picking between generations and applauded your choosing the 991.2 GT3T variant. Maybe I come around like you at some point.
Boomers unite !
The throttle response of the 992 GT3 is more pure crisp and clean and there is less interference from the flat shift software during double clutching etc; the manual gearbox action is nice and clean.
I followed your dilemna with picking between generations and applauded your choosing the 991.2 GT3T variant. Maybe I come around like you at some point.
Boomers unite !
06-25-2023, 10:53 AM
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06-25-2023, 11:30 AM
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thanks @348SStb ; the engine was glorious in the GT3 touring and it sounded angry and very strong but a little bit less refined than in my RS.
Maybe it was just my car, and it was very subtle but there; and whereas RS engine sounded like a mean screaming sewing machine that was perfectly balanced the engine in the GT3 touring sounded a little rougher and less balanced with some subtle vibrations at certain frequencies that got transmitted through the cabin (no shaking or rattling in the transmission) but faint but definite vibrations you could feel if you place your hand between seat and transmission tunnel. Those were prominent at 4-5k rpm and 'smoothed out' as you went up closer to redline.
They did not go away with service, spark plug change, serpentine belt change etc. and none of the 3 dealers I took it to felt anything was wrong with car and it was CPO. Part of my posting here is hope that another RLer who had or has had both confirm my experience one way or another. I chose not to spend my own money changing transmission and engine mounts to run out that vibration since I couldn't be sure it wasn't a characteristic of the manual 991.2 GT3T vs. my 22k mile car having had a checkered last despite clean DME.
The more I talk about the about the car the more I miss it, the downshifts in auto-blip mode with sports exhaust on we're exhilarating, it's a unique car.
Maybe it was just my car, and it was very subtle but there; and whereas RS engine sounded like a mean screaming sewing machine that was perfectly balanced the engine in the GT3 touring sounded a little rougher and less balanced with some subtle vibrations at certain frequencies that got transmitted through the cabin (no shaking or rattling in the transmission) but faint but definite vibrations you could feel if you place your hand between seat and transmission tunnel. Those were prominent at 4-5k rpm and 'smoothed out' as you went up closer to redline.
They did not go away with service, spark plug change, serpentine belt change etc. and none of the 3 dealers I took it to felt anything was wrong with car and it was CPO. Part of my posting here is hope that another RLer who had or has had both confirm my experience one way or another. I chose not to spend my own money changing transmission and engine mounts to run out that vibration since I couldn't be sure it wasn't a characteristic of the manual 991.2 GT3T vs. my 22k mile car having had a checkered last despite clean DME.
The more I talk about the about the car the more I miss it, the downshifts in auto-blip mode with sports exhaust on we're exhilarating, it's a unique car.
Last edited by catdog2; 06-25-2023 at 11:34 AM.
06-25-2023, 01:10 PM
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thanks @348SStb ; the engine was glorious in the GT3 touring and it sounded angry and very strong but a little bit less refined than in my RS.
Maybe it was just my car, and it was very subtle but there; and whereas RS engine sounded like a mean screaming sewing machine that was perfectly balanced the engine in the GT3 touring sounded a little rougher and less balanced with some subtle vibrations at certain frequencies that got transmitted through the cabin (no shaking or rattling in the transmission) but faint but definite vibrations you could feel if you place your hand between seat and transmission tunnel. Those were prominent at 4-5k rpm and 'smoothed out' as you went up closer to redline.
They did not go away with service, spark plug change, serpentine belt change etc. and none of the 3 dealers I took it to felt anything was wrong with car and it was CPO. Part of my posting here is hope that another RLer who had or has had both confirm my experience one way or another. I chose not to spend my own money changing transmission and engine mounts to run out that vibration since I couldn't be sure it wasn't a characteristic of the manual 991.2 GT3T vs. my 22k mile car having had a checkered last despite clean DME.
The more I talk about the about the car the more I miss it, the downshifts in auto-blip mode with sports exhaust on we're exhilarating, it's a unique car.
Maybe it was just my car, and it was very subtle but there; and whereas RS engine sounded like a mean screaming sewing machine that was perfectly balanced the engine in the GT3 touring sounded a little rougher and less balanced with some subtle vibrations at certain frequencies that got transmitted through the cabin (no shaking or rattling in the transmission) but faint but definite vibrations you could feel if you place your hand between seat and transmission tunnel. Those were prominent at 4-5k rpm and 'smoothed out' as you went up closer to redline.
They did not go away with service, spark plug change, serpentine belt change etc. and none of the 3 dealers I took it to felt anything was wrong with car and it was CPO. Part of my posting here is hope that another RLer who had or has had both confirm my experience one way or another. I chose not to spend my own money changing transmission and engine mounts to run out that vibration since I couldn't be sure it wasn't a characteristic of the manual 991.2 GT3T vs. my 22k mile car having had a checkered last despite clean DME.
The more I talk about the about the car the more I miss it, the downshifts in auto-blip mode with sports exhaust on we're exhilarating, it's a unique car.
I agree with your assessment. I have a touring and rs. I always chalked it up to the psychology that you’d expect the vibrations in a RS but not a touring, but at end of day nearly identical engines. Grown to love it.