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Old 03-06-2013, 10:56 AM
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If one considers the 991 GT3 as a plus version of the 991 S, it is a bargain. Speccing a 991 S to the closest spec of the GT3: aerokit cup, powerkit, PDK and PDCC with PASM sport comes to a price of $132290 vs a no option GT3 price of $131350.

Granted real world selling prices will allow a greater discount on the 911 S, but the resale of the GT3 will make up that difference easily even if sold at MSRP. Forget that the GT3 may not be as pure as the old version, but this car is the best value Porsche available.
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+1 I have the same idea
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Agreed...the question is what is the basic spec for a US GT3...
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I'm not so sure I feel the changes to the GT3 justify a 25k base price increase over the 997 GT3 that came out in 2007.

Also, I bought my 07 GT3 from a Porsche Dealer in Atlanta when there was an 18 month wait list... but now the same dealer wants a 20k premium over MSRP - so we are talking 151k starting price, before tax!
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Originally Posted by Jon70
If one considers the 991 GT3 as a plus version of the 991 S, it is a bargain. Speccing a 991 S to the closest spec of the GT3: aerokit cup, powerkit, PDK and PDCC with PASM sport comes to a price of $132290 vs a no option GT3 price of $131350.

Granted real world selling prices will allow a greater discount on the 911 S, but the resale of the GT3 will make up that difference easily even if sold at MSRP. Forget that the GT3 may not be as pure as the old version, but this car is the best value Porsche available.
Noticed the same thing - CS with all go fast parts equals base GT3 with Navi (standard on CS). Good value.
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Originally Posted by sirtom
I'm not so sure I feel the changes to the GT3 justify a 25k base price increase over the 997 GT3 that came out in 2007.

Also, I bought my 07 GT3 from a Porsche Dealer in Atlanta when there was an 18 month wait list... but now the same dealer wants a 20k premium over MSRP - so we are talking 151k starting price, before tax!
Jim Ellis or Hennessy?
Old 03-06-2013, 01:52 PM
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Another benefit of the aerokit X51 C2S: 5-lug wheels!
Old 03-07-2013, 01:02 PM
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Sirtom I would be looking for a new dealer! Something tells me that more 991 GT3s are going to be produced than the 997 variant.

The GT3 is great value. The group here on rennlist are more focused on performance than comfort.
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Originally Posted by sirtom
I'm not so sure I feel the changes to the GT3 justify a 25k base price increase over the 997 GT3 that came out in 2007.

Also, I bought my 07 GT3 from a Porsche Dealer in Atlanta when there was an 18 month wait list... but now the same dealer wants a 20k premium over MSRP - so we are talking 151k starting price, before tax!
Call any other dealer. Hell, call that dealer back and use an assumed name to see what they would offer someone they need to capture as a new customer. MSRP in the San Francisco Bay Area appears to be the norm.
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Originally Posted by Jon70
If one considers the 991 GT3 as a plus version of the 991 S, it is a bargain. Speccing a 991 S to the closest spec of the GT3: aerokit cup, powerkit, PDK and PDCC with PASM sport comes to a price of $132290 vs a no option GT3 price of $131350.

Granted real world selling prices will allow a greater discount on the 911 S, but the resale of the GT3 will make up that difference easily even if sold at MSRP. Forget that the GT3 may not be as pure as the old version, but this car is the best value Porsche available.
....except the S is already way over priced, which throws this entire argument out the window. Most Carrera S models on dealer lots without aerokit or powerkit are already in the 120's.

By comparison, the sticker on my 10' GT3 with optional paint color, sport buckets, dynamic engine mounts, sound plus, auto dimming mirrors/rain sensor, universal audio, aluminum footrest and painted exterior warts was $121K. Yes, that is less than a typical Carrera S today. That also includes the $1300 hippie gas guzzle tax and $950 destination charges. To get the same build out of the new car (if you could get decent seats), it would sticker over $140K.

If you look back, a 10' GT3 was only $4700 higher than a 08' and the 10' included the $1100 bi-xenon option from the 08' as standard. So you really only had a difference of $3600 to get the bigger engine, bigger brakes and improved suspension. That WAS a bargain. The best value Porsche today is clearly the Boxster S that matches the new Carrera's performance for a lot less money.

P.S.: Even though I ordered my GT3, I still got a discount.
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Originally Posted by 10 GT3
By comparison, the sticker on my 10' GT3 with optional paint color, sport buckets, dynamic engine mounts, sound plus, auto dimming mirrors/rain sensor, universal audio, aluminum footrest and painted exterior warts was $121K. That also includes the $1300 hippie gas guzzle tax and $950 destination charges.
Dead wrong, my friend! Either your memory is going bad or you're just winging it... The "BASE" price of a '10/11 NB GT3 was $115700 with a $950 delivery charge and a $1300 Gas Guzzler charge. Adding Sport buckets ($5350), DEM's ($3150), Sound Plus ($650) etc, etc,,, we're already over your $121K :-) Must not be a finance guy
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Just tried out the configurator at Porsche website and it came out over $151k. Jon, just get the damn Scuderia already All new cars are going to depreciate regardless (may be not 4.0). That money could go into maintenance of already depreciated Scud or VA property tax. Only thing new GT3 sounds interesting is that mechanism to disengage the clutch by pulling both paddles on PDK.
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Originally Posted by brake dust
Something tells me that more 991 GT3s are going to be produced than the 997 variant.
+1
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Default Hilarious Anti-GT3 rant by Jack Baruth

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/201...s/#more-480514

GT3s are purchased for two reasons. One, they’re fun to drive, so the mandatory PDK in the new one kind of stabs that in the proverbial ball sack. Two, they have traditionally had the old, hyper-durable, GT1-based engine. The new GT3 makes do with an uprated version of the new-gen boxer which makes great numbers in the current 991 but has yet to prove itself as a lasting proposition.
He makes some great points, albeit tongue-in-cheek. I'll reserve final judgement on the car until I get to drive one.

I DO think it's gorgeous, especially in that cup-car (Carrara?) white.

Jon, are you thinking of getting one? I'm definitely ordering a 981S but still unsure on this car, or its RS variant.

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Originally Posted by BerryS
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/201...s/#more-480514



He makes some great points, albeit tongue-in-cheek. I'll reserve final judgement on the car until I get to drive one.

I DO think it's gorgeous, especially in that cup-car (Carrara?) white.

Jon, are you thinking of getting one? I'm definitely ordering a 981S but still unsure on this car, or its RS variant.

BerryS
He is super passionate and a multiple Porsche owner. And an excellent writer.


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