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Old 04-15-2014, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by mcsmcs1
Eduardo is mistaken on this. I am a 2014 VIN car which got halted on Mar 20(V270) and Porsche is now saying I will get my engine on August 29. I am one of the last 2014s. Then will come the 2015s beginning with the April and May guys that got pushed to MY 2015. They are scheduled for Spetember forward. Porsche isn't going to produce a 2015 in June before my darn 2014 in August. Further, the 2015s for June on are not going to jump the line in front of the April and May cars pushed to 2015 cars. Let's get serious, everyone will experience the delay.
MCSMCS1, I have to agree with you on this. I dare not say Eduardo is wrong, because he is.... EDUARDO and he has posted some awesome info. That said, I can't argue with your logic. It seems inconceivable to me that PAG would build my car before yours... or a MY2015 regular guy before my rescheduled March build thats now a MY2015! Thats why I'm amazed he suggested this.
Old 04-15-2014, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by rubbaman
MCSMCS1, I have to agree with you on this. I dare not say Eduardo is wrong, because he is.... EDUARDO and he has posted some awesome info. That said, I can't argue with your logic. It seems inconceivable to me that PAG would build my car before yours... or a MY2015 regular guy before my rescheduled March build thats now a MY2015! Thats why I'm amazed he suggested this.
Mr. PTS Eduardo isn't infallible, I hope! That said, if he is right and some 2015s are driving around before Porsche places my 2014 engine, it will take a lot more than 2000 a month to shut me up. This purchase experience has started to border on the absurd, so who knows at this point.
Old 04-15-2014, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by RUF RS
Thank you Eduardo!!!! I will be at curbside pick up, United, Terminal 6 at 7:15 Sharp. I have a small satellite office right near LAX, on Century Blvd. We can get the whole thing done in 5 minutes. Before you know what happened (or I should say, before I KNOW what happened), you will be on your flight back to Monterey........
^ First Dibs on the '72S!!!!
just kidding RUF RS...good health man!
Old 04-15-2014, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Conekilr
I sincerely hope you are wrong on this. I would expect the same priority be granted to those who had their 2014 builds bumped to 2015 be put at the head of the 2015 line now, much along the lines of what Porsche is saying they will do with the 2014 engine replacements; first in, first out...

Just remember these two modern production phrases: 'Just-in-Time' and 'Just-in-Sequence'. The delayed MY2014's have messed-up Porsche's logistics really bad...but these have already been accounted for. PAG will not want to mess up the upcoming MY2015 logistics just to play 'fair' with the few MY2014 gt3 customers. Any changes now to the scheduling with all the off-site vendors and sub-contractors will be double costly for production! And Porsche is pretty fed up with the additional costs of the '14 gt3's, so I doubt they'll willingly take on 'messing' with the logistics on the early '15's that already had been scheduled for months.

We will know the plan soon enough!

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Z356 - That is hysterical but I do not know if you were trying to be funny
Never!

Originally Posted by Jimmy-D
Do you believe that the total number of 2014/15 GT3s that Porsche was originally planning to produce will be reduced overall from their original plan because of the issues and consequent delays?
No, I am not saying that. PAG normally would take all ordered but not build MY2014's and fit them into the MY2015 production ASAP. Those total production numbers would not, in theory, change. Of course, you will have gt3 cancellations because of the delays. But they might gain new orders. Perhaps even more than before! But if there is a cloud in the horizon re: total MY2014/2015 gt3 production numbers, you read it in Macca's post which I have reproduced for you below:

Originally Posted by Macca
Eduardo. Fantastic email. Your memory is excellent. Your knowledge too. Makes some of my communications look very clumsy! I believe the current GT3 dilemma may have played havoc with Porsches calender for that model. The next "scratch" produced GT3s are likely to be MY 2015 as you say which could come as soon as late May but my suspicion is June. However I would be surprised in light of current circumstances Porsche continue to produce the GT3 in volume beyond October. The 991 GT3RS timetable is rumoured to have slipped. Again its essential both of these models complete their production before further changes in Euro emissions compliance regulations. German auto industry bought a rain cheque (largely arguing on the basis of GFC economics and the final revival of the Euro auto industry) but I suspect Europe is returning to form quicker than anticipated, Euro car manufacturers are again posting significant profits, and legislation may be back with a vengeance in 2015. Its very hard to understand if Porsche have the fortitude to continue with a thirsty NA engine for GT3 in future model generations, but I sure hope so. The good thing about the volume Macan is it will be lowering their product mix emissions average rating...
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Originally Posted by mcsmcs1
Eduardo is mistaken on this. I am a 2014 VIN car which got halted on Mar 20(V270) and Porsche is now saying I will get my engine on August 29. I am one of the last 2014s. Then will come the 2015s beginning with the April and May guys that got pushed to MY 2015. They are scheduled for Spetember forward. Porsche isn't going to produce a 2015 in June before my darn 2014 in August. Further, the 2015s for June on are not going to jump the line in front of the April and May cars pushed to 2015 cars. Let's get serious, everyone will experience the delay.
You might be right...or wrong.

Originally Posted by rubbaman
Eduardo, you never cease to amaze me with the depth and breadth of the information you possess! I'm still enjoying the Clint Eastwood airline ticket too! But here's the deal. I DID NOT have a late MY2014 GT3 allocation. I HAD a Feb 2014 allocation. I was V210 ready to go! And they switched me. They VX99'd my order. NOW.. I have a September allocation for MY2015. I'm not unhappy with a MY2015 don't get me wrong. So I am a BUMPED guy as you state. So I'll ask my question again, Is there a chance I get built before September as you stated could happen?
A chance? Yes...yes there is! I am texting CEO Matthias Müller next to ask him to put you ahead of mcsmcs1's gt3.

I would also ask Matthias put you ahead of Conekilr's gt3...but that will not be necessary. The Canadian's PTS in 'Mode Grau' will not be build for at least 5 months! 'Porsche Exclusive' will probably not do its paint-to-sample batches until that time...at the earliest. That's their speed - slow and...slower!

Saludos,
Eduardo
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Old 04-15-2014, 07:29 PM
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LOL.....GOOD ONE....!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by GTEE3
^ First Dibs on the '72S!!!!
just kidding RUF RS...good health man!
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@ Eduardo
I haven't actually heard of anyone with a June, July or August build scheduled and in the system with a commission number. If they exist, maybe they can weigh in.

Secondly, it is inconceivable that a MY 2014 partially built and sitting at the factory would get its engine subsequent to a MY 2015. It is the same engine, so why not put it in the 2014 and get the car out of there? PCNA has assured me that no 2015 gets built before the 2014s have an engine. FIFO
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Originally Posted by RUF RS
LOL.....GOOD ONE....!!!!!!!
^ OH MY!
VEERRY Nice! Congrats, she is a keeper,
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Old 04-15-2014, 09:01 PM
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WE all must keep in mind that what happened to the GT3"s was unprecedented. As a result, Porsche is taking unprecedented actions. Eduardo may be right if Porsche acts if nothing happened to the GT3's. Thus far, that has not been the case. They have not followed their standard practices and may not do so in dealing with the Y2015 GT3's.

To allow production and delivery of the 2015's while 2014's sit and wait for an engine is something up until now Porsche has indicated it would not do and would be very costly for them to do so. It also would generate so much anger among 2014 owners it could lead to litigation. The paltry $66 a day would never make up for the massive depreciation to the Y2104 models should 2015 be on the road before 2014's.
Old 04-15-2014, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Nick
WE all must keep in mind that what happened to the GT3"s was unprecedented. As a result, Porsche is taking unprecedented actions. Eduardo may be right if Porsche acts if nothing happened to the GT3's. Thus far, that has not been the case. They have not followed their standard practices and may not do so in dealing with the Y2015 GT3's. To allow production and delivery of the 2015's while 2014's sit and wait for an engine is something up until now Porsche has indicated it would not do and would be very costly for them to do so. It also would generate so much anger among 2014 owners it could lead to litigation. The paltry $66 a day would never make up for the massive depreciation to the Y2104 models should 2015 be on the road before 2014's.
I totally agree with you. Every communication thus far has included statements (unprompted ones at that...) from PCNA that engines will be replaced in the order of original production and that NO 2015s will be built until the swaps are completed.
Old 04-15-2014, 09:39 PM
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Has anyone spoken to your GT3 concierge lately? I've put emails and calls in and it's been radio silent.

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Old 04-15-2014, 09:52 PM
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Does it seem like everyone is getting a 'September' build regardless of when your initial build was? It seems like march, April, may, everyone is just being told September. Something doesn't add up...
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Originally Posted by jlee504
Has anyone spoken to your GT3 concierge lately? I've put emails and calls in and it's been radio silent. Jeff
Agreed. I've not been able to get a hold of him since the terms of the compensation came out...
Old 04-15-2014, 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by orthojoe
Does it seem like everyone is getting a 'September' build regardless of when your initial build was? It seems like march, April, may, everyone is just being told September. Something doesn't add up...
Crap, NOBODY'S told me ANYTHING. I wish somebody would cough up a date, even if it was BS.
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Originally Posted by RUF RS
Crap, NOBODY'S told me ANYTHING. I wish somebody would cough up a date, even if it was BS.
Dude, no! No more BS dates. I want them to give real dates and meet or beat expectations.
Old 04-15-2014, 11:22 PM
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I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt and Assume they are working on something big.

I'm giving them till tomorrow. Hahahahahaa


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