Opinion on reliability - '14 TTS with 66K miles
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Opinion on reliability - '14 TTS with 66K miles
/Coming over from the 964 side/
I am looking into selling my (restored) 89 C4 and buying a '14 TTS with 66K miles.
What is the general experience with such miles on the 991 TTS? I tend to keep my Porsches 10 years miniumum, and drive them.
What is the consensus on reliability?
Thanks, George
I am looking into selling my (restored) 89 C4 and buying a '14 TTS with 66K miles.
What is the general experience with such miles on the 991 TTS? I tend to keep my Porsches 10 years miniumum, and drive them.
What is the consensus on reliability?
Thanks, George
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Turbo S
I would be concerned with the condition of the brake rotors. At $20K plus, sitting on the counter, it could be really expensive!!! There are alternatives, but make sure you have a professional evaluation of the brake rotor condition prior to buying.
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Drifting
As far as the rotors are concerned. My understanding that they should last the life of the car assuming you only Street drive and you’re too hard on the brakes. Just have them looked at but I would not worry too much. The pads are not expensive at all it is only the rotors themselves. My car has 53,000 miles and I have no issues at all and plenty of meat left on the pads. My rotors look brand new. A lot of my mileage was on the highway I believe. I am the third owner of my car.
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Don't have much to add other than what's been said above, but in case my experience is helpful:
I'm around 45k miles with my 2014 TTS and no issues so far, though I'm burning through my rear tires faster than expected given that I don't track the car (my last set of rears lasted just 7k miles).
I'm now out of warranty coverage, and I opted not to purchase a third party warranty. Several others on this forum have also opted out of a third party warranty. There were some discussions about how a warranty would be beneficial in the event the PDK failed and required a full replacement ($20-$30k?), but I have not see anyone on this forum suffer from a PDK failure.
I'm around 45k miles with my 2014 TTS and no issues so far, though I'm burning through my rear tires faster than expected given that I don't track the car (my last set of rears lasted just 7k miles).
I'm now out of warranty coverage, and I opted not to purchase a third party warranty. Several others on this forum have also opted out of a third party warranty. There were some discussions about how a warranty would be beneficial in the event the PDK failed and required a full replacement ($20-$30k?), but I have not see anyone on this forum suffer from a PDK failure.
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As far as the rotors are concerned. My understanding that they should last the life of the car assuming you only Street drive and you’re too hard on the brakes. Just have them looked at but I would not worry too much. The pads are not expensive at all it is only the rotors themselves. My car has 53,000 miles and I have no issues at all and plenty of meat left on the pads. My rotors look brand new. A lot of my mileage was on the highway I believe. I am the third owner of my car.
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The 991 platform overall is really a very reliable and robust vehicle, and the Turbo adds no particular weaknesses. Actually a bit more reliable than 991s overall as they had a year and a half of regular 991 production to work out a few of the very minor issues. Engine is very robust, PDK transmission is pretty stable... As mentioned, current generation PCCB brakes should easily last 150k+ miles (non-tracked) with nothing more than one or two pad changes.
What will burn some money is the normal stuff that can fail on any car, some interior trim piece or mechanical whatever that can be expensive to fix at a dealer. But no more expensive than any other Porsche, or a Mercedes, or any premium car.
Perhaps the biggest 'risk' other than the expensive rotors is if you have a PDK issue, and at this point Porsche isn't repairing them, even if it's a relatively trivial microswitch failure within the transmission. It's a unit swap, and pricey. Kind of like the engines on most previous Porsches, but the aftermarket usually steps in at some point and starts offering repair services. Fortunately the PDK is pretty reliable so there hasn't been much demand for other solutions.
My 2014 is also a comparatively high mile car... Not 66K high, but I'll be there soon enough! I have a CPO, and have had a few minor warranty repairs. While the dealer bill (to Porsche) was a fair bit, if it wan't under warranty, I would have dealt with it myself for a fraction of the dealer price.
What will burn some money is the normal stuff that can fail on any car, some interior trim piece or mechanical whatever that can be expensive to fix at a dealer. But no more expensive than any other Porsche, or a Mercedes, or any premium car.
Perhaps the biggest 'risk' other than the expensive rotors is if you have a PDK issue, and at this point Porsche isn't repairing them, even if it's a relatively trivial microswitch failure within the transmission. It's a unit swap, and pricey. Kind of like the engines on most previous Porsches, but the aftermarket usually steps in at some point and starts offering repair services. Fortunately the PDK is pretty reliable so there hasn't been much demand for other solutions.
My 2014 is also a comparatively high mile car... Not 66K high, but I'll be there soon enough! I have a CPO, and have had a few minor warranty repairs. While the dealer bill (to Porsche) was a fair bit, if it wan't under warranty, I would have dealt with it myself for a fraction of the dealer price.
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This guy has done a ton of research and legwork into repairing failed PDKs (that don't involve begging the dealer for a unit swap):
https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...nsmission.html
https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...nsmission.html
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The 991 platform overall is really a very reliable and robust vehcile, and the Turbo adds no particular weaknesses. In fact a bit more reliable than 991s overall as they had a year and a half of regular 991 production to work out a few of the very minor issues. Engine is very robust, PDK transmission is pretty stable... As mentioned, current generation PCCB brakes should easily last 150k+ miles (non-tracked) with nothing more than one or two pad changes.
What will burn some money is the normal stuff that can fail on any car, some interior trim piece or mechanical whatever that can be expensive to fix at a dealer. But no more expensive than any other Porsche, or a Mercedes, or any premium car.
Perhaps the biggest 'risk' other than the expensive rotors is if you have a PDK issue, and at this point Porsche isn't repairing them, even if it's a relatively trivial microswitch failure within the transmission. It's a unit swap, and pricey. Kind of like the engines on most previous Porsches, but the aftermarket usually steps in at some point and starts offering repair services. Fortunately the PDK is pretty reliable so there hasn't been much demand for other solutions.
My 2014 is also a comparatively high mile car... Not 66K high, but I'll be there soon enough! I have a CPO, and have had a few minor warranty repairs. While the dealer bill (to Porsche) was a fair bit, if it wan't under warranty, I would have dealt with it myself for a fraction of the dealer price.
What will burn some money is the normal stuff that can fail on any car, some interior trim piece or mechanical whatever that can be expensive to fix at a dealer. But no more expensive than any other Porsche, or a Mercedes, or any premium car.
Perhaps the biggest 'risk' other than the expensive rotors is if you have a PDK issue, and at this point Porsche isn't repairing them, even if it's a relatively trivial microswitch failure within the transmission. It's a unit swap, and pricey. Kind of like the engines on most previous Porsches, but the aftermarket usually steps in at some point and starts offering repair services. Fortunately the PDK is pretty reliable so there hasn't been much demand for other solutions.
My 2014 is also a comparatively high mile car... Not 66K high, but I'll be there soon enough! I have a CPO, and have had a few minor warranty repairs. While the dealer bill (to Porsche) was a fair bit, if it wan't under warranty, I would have dealt with it myself for a fraction of the dealer price.
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This guy has done a ton of research and legwork into repairing failed PDKs (that don't involve begging the dealer for a unit swap):
https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...nsmission.html
https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...nsmission.html
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My TTS is nearing 37k, and it is a magnificent car to drive. Spend the $’s to get it check out mechanically including level of wear on the PCCB’s. These cars are rock solid.
#12
Track Day
I live in Las Vegas and purchased my 2104 991 Turbo new. It currently has over 71 miles and the original brake pad/rotors . The car is bullet proof put it does like to eat tires. Burns no oil and now issue since new other than service. The dealer says all the miles really depreciates the car but I am 74 and purchase the car to drive not to look at in the garage. My goal is to keep and drive it to at least 100K miles. If you find a clean high milage Turbo with all the records it is most likely much better than a 6-10 year old car with 5K miles. These cars were meant to be driven not admired in the garage.
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Not a high mile car here but had a 12 TTS and now a 17 TTS and Both have been rock solid!!
Such amazing cars!!
Such amazing cars!!
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Burning Brakes
I had the same concern buying a 2014 TTS with 44K miles a year ago. Now at 50K. Zero problems. The biggest shock was the cost of replacing sparkplugs.
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