Newbie question on turbo I’m considering
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Newbie question on turbo I’m considering
Hi all- I am considering purchasing a 2014 turbo coupe with 22k miles on it. It seems like a decent value at $107k . One question.. it has red brake calipers. I was under the impression they should be yellow? Also what do we think about the price. Black on red interior , auto
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It doesn't have carbon ceramic brakes so calipers are red. Yellow were only used for the CCB's. Price is ok because of mileage but if you are gonna actually drive the car instead of store it like so many do its worth finding a turbo s with 50K miles that was well taken care of for the same price IMO.
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The Turbo came with steel rotors and red calipers as stock, the Turbo S came with carbon ceramic rotors with yellow calipers. All Porsche brakes are up to the job. Steel rotors are much cheaper to replace as they wear, carbon ceramics produce almost no dust so your wheels stay cleaner. Many track rats replace the carbon ceramics with steel rotors to save cost.
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Only the Turbo S came with standard ceramic brakes. Turbo was an add on option. Depending on your use, if you are going to track, the non ceramic are a better choice.
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I agree on the ceramic brakes. They’re fantastic for a street car because of the lack of brake dust. They perform at a very high level on the track, but they’re quite expensive to replace as mentioned above. As I recall, new rotors are in the neighborhood of $5,000 each.
The Turbo S cars have other standard features that are optional on the Turbo cars. It really comes down to what you want in a Porsche.
The Turbo S cars have other standard features that are optional on the Turbo cars. It really comes down to what you want in a Porsche.
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All the above points about steel vs. ceramic brakes (PCCBs) are valid.
I have always been skeptical about whether the ceramic brakes were worth their much higher cost, and I had never had them on any vehicle until I purchased my 2014 TTS. All of my PCCB skepticism vanished after putting several K miles on my TTS. They are simply spectacular in all ways, particularly max stopping power, which is nothing short of mind-boggling, and the fact that they are virtually dustless is a big bonus. The very large PCCB disks, front and rear, virtually occupy the entire open space behind the 20" wheels.
I had a very close call recently where a pickup truck pulled out right in front of me, while I was running between 60-70 mph, and it was so close, I am pretty sure I wouldn't have been able to stop in time without the PCCBs. That one single incident made me a believer for life.
I'll also add that if you intend to only use the car on the street, they are likely to last for the life of the car (e.g. good for at least 100K miles) but if a car is heavily tracked the expense of replacing them is a valid argument for sticking with steel brakes.
I have always been skeptical about whether the ceramic brakes were worth their much higher cost, and I had never had them on any vehicle until I purchased my 2014 TTS. All of my PCCB skepticism vanished after putting several K miles on my TTS. They are simply spectacular in all ways, particularly max stopping power, which is nothing short of mind-boggling, and the fact that they are virtually dustless is a big bonus. The very large PCCB disks, front and rear, virtually occupy the entire open space behind the 20" wheels.
I had a very close call recently where a pickup truck pulled out right in front of me, while I was running between 60-70 mph, and it was so close, I am pretty sure I wouldn't have been able to stop in time without the PCCBs. That one single incident made me a believer for life.
I'll also add that if you intend to only use the car on the street, they are likely to last for the life of the car (e.g. good for at least 100K miles) but if a car is heavily tracked the expense of replacing them is a valid argument for sticking with steel brakes.
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I’m at almost 59k miles with almost 0 issues. Car is tuned and I drive it like I stole it. Very solid cars, great internals that can handle mods. I drive mine daily like a Toyota Camry with no issues.
Again the ceramics are great for everyday driving and will definitely save your bacon in hairy situations. If you track though you will wear them down quickly and just look at Suncoast Porsche Parts that is selling new front rotors only for $18k. Ouch. But as a daily driver they should go 100k miles.
Again the ceramics are great for everyday driving and will definitely save your bacon in hairy situations. If you track though you will wear them down quickly and just look at Suncoast Porsche Parts that is selling new front rotors only for $18k. Ouch. But as a daily driver they should go 100k miles.
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My 991.1 Turbo S is the most reliable car that I’ve ever owned. It is ten years old and the only repair that it has needed in that time was a parking brake adjustment.
I recently had my car at the dealership for the ten year major service. My service advisor told me that the 991s are the most reliable 911 that they service. Apparently the 992s often have issues with the electronics.
I recently had my car at the dealership for the ten year major service. My service advisor told me that the 991s are the most reliable 911 that they service. Apparently the 992s often have issues with the electronics.
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My 991.1 Turbo S is the most reliable car that I’ve ever owned. It is ten years old and the only repair that it has needed in that time was a parking brake adjustment.
I recently had my car at the dealership for the ten year major service. My service advisor told me that the 991s are the most reliable 911 that they service. Apparently the 992s often have issues with the electronics.
I recently had my car at the dealership for the ten year major service. My service advisor told me that the 991s are the most reliable 911 that they service. Apparently the 992s often have issues with the electronics.
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If buying a 991.1, the Turbo and Turbo S mechanicals are exactly the same, so if you add a tune they will both make the same power.
The Red calipers are not carbon ceramics, my Turbo S has carbon ceramics and center lock wheels
Given the choice I would rather have 5 lug wheels and not carbon ceramics for ease of wheel changes and less costly if the ceramic rotors wear out, but I am not going to swap mine out.
I have a 991.1 Turbo S cabriolet, black with red interior.
I bought it in 10/2020 CPO with 38K miles, it now has 53K miles 3&1/2 years later.
The car has been bulletproof, Porsche actually replaced one of the Turbos under the CPO warranty early on, but I think they just didn't want to track down the boost leak.
Here is the black with red for your information.
I added new Black wheels and all-season tires in the first picture.
The Red calipers are not carbon ceramics, my Turbo S has carbon ceramics and center lock wheels
Given the choice I would rather have 5 lug wheels and not carbon ceramics for ease of wheel changes and less costly if the ceramic rotors wear out, but I am not going to swap mine out.
I have a 991.1 Turbo S cabriolet, black with red interior.
I bought it in 10/2020 CPO with 38K miles, it now has 53K miles 3&1/2 years later.
The car has been bulletproof, Porsche actually replaced one of the Turbos under the CPO warranty early on, but I think they just didn't want to track down the boost leak.
Here is the black with red for your information.
I added new Black wheels and all-season tires in the first picture.
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My 991.1 Turbo S is the most reliable car that I’ve ever owned. It is ten years old and the only repair that it has needed in that time was a parking brake adjustment.
I recently had my car at the dealership for the ten year major service. My service advisor told me that the 991s are the most reliable 911 that they service. Apparently the 992s often have issues with the electronics.
I recently had my car at the dealership for the ten year major service. My service advisor told me that the 991s are the most reliable 911 that they service. Apparently the 992s often have issues with the electronics.
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I’ve got about 39,300 miles on my odometer.
For comparison, I drove my 997 Turbo roughly the same number of miles per year as my 991 Turbo S. While the 997 was also quite reliable, it needed more repairs than the 991.
For comparison, I drove my 997 Turbo roughly the same number of miles per year as my 991 Turbo S. While the 997 was also quite reliable, it needed more repairs than the 991.
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