DSC Sport V3 Control Module
02-28-2024, 03:35 PM
#781
Glad you got it solved by replacing the USB cable. The USB cable needs to be 2.0 or 3.0 version. Yeah, some of cheap cables I have gotten online don't work.
Rev matching is not controlled by the suspension controller. Its controlled by the ECU.
Any diagnostic scan tool that is designed to communicate with the OEM controller is not going to communicate with the DSC controller. DSC has a different programming languages in order have its awesome functions. As such, DSC has its own communication software. Attempting to comminute with DSC controller using a scan tool designed for OEM controller will show "device offline" or "no comm" or "comm error" or something along those lines because the device that the scan tool is trying to read isn't there. It would be same scenario as attempting to communicate with the PCM with an aftermarket radio installed.
We used to name the files "Tour" and "RS" (which is not to be confused with the names of the Porsche car models, we used to name the files to sound catchy for marketing to relevant keywords at the time). We stopped doing that in 2022. The Tour file was for older controllers made up through year 2020, which isn't compatible with newer controllers made 2021-newer. Tour file was our best effort for that time period. Which we are still honored and proud of for the achievement. Your new 2024 DSC controller is the newest hardware and has our most highly developed file in it. It is an evolution of the 2021-2022 RS file which contains the best elements from the previous 2018-2020 Tour file. You already have the best of our engineering cherry picked to combine with our newest hardware. I am afraid some of the info from this long thread started from 2018 is outdated based on current circumstance. Electronics rarely stay the same for 5+ years. And we keep pushing and evolving to do better.
Rev matching is not controlled by the suspension controller. Its controlled by the ECU.
Any diagnostic scan tool that is designed to communicate with the OEM controller is not going to communicate with the DSC controller. DSC has a different programming languages in order have its awesome functions. As such, DSC has its own communication software. Attempting to comminute with DSC controller using a scan tool designed for OEM controller will show "device offline" or "no comm" or "comm error" or something along those lines because the device that the scan tool is trying to read isn't there. It would be same scenario as attempting to communicate with the PCM with an aftermarket radio installed.
We used to name the files "Tour" and "RS" (which is not to be confused with the names of the Porsche car models, we used to name the files to sound catchy for marketing to relevant keywords at the time). We stopped doing that in 2022. The Tour file was for older controllers made up through year 2020, which isn't compatible with newer controllers made 2021-newer. Tour file was our best effort for that time period. Which we are still honored and proud of for the achievement. Your new 2024 DSC controller is the newest hardware and has our most highly developed file in it. It is an evolution of the 2021-2022 RS file which contains the best elements from the previous 2018-2020 Tour file. You already have the best of our engineering cherry picked to combine with our newest hardware. I am afraid some of the info from this long thread started from 2018 is outdated based on current circumstance. Electronics rarely stay the same for 5+ years. And we keep pushing and evolving to do better.
thanks
02-28-2024, 08:01 PM
#783
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I think this is answered in another thread Post #38
I have the GT3 Touring file for the pre 2020 DSC to share, please DM me. I got it from another kind RLer since I wasn't sure what was on mine when I bought it here in the marketplace. At the time I didn't even know there was a later version (nor do I assume any bad intent from the seller).
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Ksdaoski (02-29-2024)
02-29-2024, 08:18 AM
#785
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Is this module ever going to have Bluetooth incorporated so a cord is not needed for tweaking?
02-29-2024, 08:21 AM
#786
Nordschleife Master
02-29-2024, 08:24 AM
#787
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I would say NO. It's clear the company producing these is going backwards in what they are providing to users. There is nothing to indicate they would want to spend more money in R&D to enhance the customer interface and experience.
02-29-2024, 12:06 PM
#788
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Imagine a scenario where the devices could be managed over a well documented API via a straightforward data format. Enthusiastic community members could provide alternate ways to interface with the devices and we could share config files with each other freely. Look at what @PV997 has done with the PDK distance sensor. The will to build and improve is out there. We could have a cheap bluetooth interface or better software (macOS etc) and much more collaboration on what works for various setup.
Instead we're at the mercy of DSC and TPC Racing (both great outfits) and "hey does anyone have the config file from 2019?". Not ideal IMO. I contend that if these devices were open from the get-go, they'd sell even more of them and we'd all benefit. Hell the vendors would probably have less support load than today because vibrant communities are magic when it comes to figuring things out. Alas.
Rant over. Carry on.
02-29-2024, 12:37 PM
#789
Rennlist Member
nothing wrong with your comments but I have three counters for them:
1. they definitely aren't hurting for business, products are often on back order either due to demand or lack of parts.
2. I'm thinking that it's pretty much impossible to hack into their closed system. I doubt that the same could be said of a public system.
3. there are a lot of people who have no ambition to be world shakers, they have a great small business that doesn't consume every minute of their time and life is good.
1. they definitely aren't hurting for business, products are often on back order either due to demand or lack of parts.
2. I'm thinking that it's pretty much impossible to hack into their closed system. I doubt that the same could be said of a public system.
3. there are a lot of people who have no ambition to be world shakers, they have a great small business that doesn't consume every minute of their time and life is good.
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cbredesen (02-29-2024)
02-29-2024, 12:49 PM
#790
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nothing wrong with your comments but I have three counters for them:
1. they definitely aren't hurting for business, products are often on back order either due to demand or lack of parts.
2. I'm thinking that it's pretty much impossible to hack into their closed system. I doubt that the same could be said of a public system.
3. there are a lot of people who have no ambition to be world shakers, they have a great small business that doesn't consume every minute of their time and life is good.
1. they definitely aren't hurting for business, products are often on back order either due to demand or lack of parts.
2. I'm thinking that it's pretty much impossible to hack into their closed system. I doubt that the same could be said of a public system.
3. there are a lot of people who have no ambition to be world shakers, they have a great small business that doesn't consume every minute of their time and life is good.
02-29-2024, 01:15 PM
#791
Rennlist Member
If they were planning on this upgrade I would hold off on purchasing...... that's the reason for my question.
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02-29-2024, 03:17 PM
#792
The opaque versioning is frustrating. As folks in that thread pointed out, they should have called them V3.1 etc. Further, it's beyond me why the config files aren't widely available. It seems that DSC considers the data files as part of their IP but it's unclear whether they're copyrighted in some way (they're binary files and don't seem to contain license information). It would be ideal for the community if they could be uploaded and shared on something like GitHub so we could all benefit from each other's work.
I have the GT3 Touring file for the pre 2020 DSC to share, please DM me. I got it from another kind RLer since I wasn't sure what was on mine when I bought it here in the marketplace. At the time I didn't even know there was a later version (nor do I assume any bad intent from the seller).
I have the GT3 Touring file for the pre 2020 DSC to share, please DM me. I got it from another kind RLer since I wasn't sure what was on mine when I bought it here in the marketplace. At the time I didn't even know there was a later version (nor do I assume any bad intent from the seller).
one other time, once i changed it, it changed for "normal" mode and "sport" mode, which what I want for Normal mode to stay at 1500 mA and Sport Mode to be 1300 mA.
i'm in the IT industry as well, the proble I have is cant find the info to get some consistancy on the module. watched clips and read forum, seems like there is a way to save changes by "reset the board" which I've done all the way through the process.
i'm going to try this again today and see if I can have different discovery, and wait for @Tom@TPC Racing to reply my emails.
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cbredesen (02-29-2024)
03-03-2024, 05:20 PM
#793
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finally was able to take my car out for the first drive after installing the DSC, thank you climate change. the ride seems to be smoother driving around town in normal mode. the biggest difference I notice is when taking corners. in the stock controller I would feel a fair amount of body roll going fast around corners or roundabouts. with the DSC it feels completely flat, that is a marked difference. doesn't matter if it's in normal or sport mode, the suspension instantly responds and the car just sticks to the road. this is exactly what I was looking for and DSC delivered. I think that the drive to B.C. is going to be a joy.
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Zylinderkopfdichtung (03-03-2024)
03-05-2024, 05:24 PM
#794
finally was able to take my car out for the first drive after installing the DSC, thank you climate change. the ride seems to be smoother driving around town in normal mode. the biggest difference I notice is when taking corners. in the stock controller I would feel a fair amount of body roll going fast around corners or roundabouts. with the DSC it feels completely flat, that is a marked difference. doesn't matter if it's in normal or sport mode, the suspension instantly responds and the car just sticks to the road. this is exactly what I was looking for and DSC delivered. I think that the drive to B.C. is going to be a joy.
03-05-2024, 05:31 PM
#795
Rennlist Member
This comment explains why this probably is the case: https://rennlist.com/forums/991/1101...l#post18844016
TBH I want to set them up with a bit more distinction between them but I have to borrow a Windows laptop again and I haven't gotten around to it.