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991.2 Water Pump Failures

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Old 03-14-2023, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by IXLR8
But when they can't get something as simple as getting a water pump to be reliable, one has to wonder. I guess the car is good for taking trips around the block.

Good thing I have a reliable daily driver.
I hope your tail lights don't fall out during one of your long trips. Easy way to get rear-ended, reliable daily driver or not.
Old 03-14-2023, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Holger B
I hope your tail lights don't fall out during one of your long trips. Easy way to get rear-ended, reliable daily driver or not.
Well amazingly I can still drive without a tail light. Try that with a failed and relatively new water pump? What do tail lights have to do with this ongoing issue?

Fix the damn problem. Stop defending it! I have never seen items fail and fail again as such low mileages.

By the way, when my VW TDI got bought back due to Dieselgate, I looked at a Macan first, then an X3 and a few others. All very nice but no thanks as I keep my daily drivers far longer than most people do.

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Old 03-14-2023, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Hurricane
That might be the first time I have ever read of a 2019 water pump failing. Are you sure of the year?
I purchased a 2019 Targa GTS in November of 2022 with 19,500 miles. Carfax shows that the water pump was replaced at the dealer in 2021 under warranty.
Old 02-26-2024, 05:30 PM
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Just discovered a decent-sized pink pool under our 2018 C2 coupe, a June 2018 build w/57,000 miles.

No warnings on the dash or overheating on the way home. Just happened to notice it while loading up our other car a little while after returning home in the 991. Heads into our local Porsche dealer this week for a new pump, and very appreciative of the warranty extension to cover. Will take take the opportunity to have the serpentine belt replaced as 6 years is just around the corner.
Old 02-26-2024, 05:46 PM
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get a loaner..1 week minimum, longer if weekend/holiday involved.
Old 03-07-2024, 11:36 AM
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Many thanks for posting the full document. I previously responded to the survey stating that I didn't have any issue. My car is a 2017 C2S purchased as a CPO vehicle from the original selling dealership in 2019 with a little over 14k miles. The car now has a little over 37k miles. For the first time ever I noticed a little bit of dried pinkish residue on the coolant tube that is below and behind the water pump and upon more closely checking saw some residue at the bottom of the pump behind the pulley. I never received any letter; perhaps one was sent to the original purchaser during his ownership period. To my knowledge, from the records provided to me by the dealership and CarFax, the pump was not previously changed.

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I bought my 2017 in 2019 and the water pump had already been replaced.
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Originally Posted by rubycaymanr
I had a 2017 GTS and now own a 2018 GTS both had the water pump replaced. From my perspective a 100% failure rate
Wow why are so many 991.2's having water pump leak and issues for a .2 car. Seem's like every generation 911 has a common issue.
Old 03-27-2024, 08:32 AM
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Went to pick my '17 C2S with 28K miles up from having the belt, plugs, and early 40K service done yesterday and was told oops, during the test drive, the tech discovered the car has a coolant pump issue. Replacing under warranty so "please continue to enjoy your loaner Taycan while we fix this up for you". Awesome.

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Old 03-27-2024, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by LawrieK
I bought my 2017 in 2019 and the water pump had already been replaced.
What I would like to know is, what changes did Porsche make in the design of the water pump to fix the issue? Or did they simply extend the warranty date on them?

Thinking back to the time when I replaced my timing belt and tensioner on my car, I replaced the water pump because I was in there. The water pump was still leak-free at 190,896 km or 118,616 miles. Mind you, it was a Honda.
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Porsche doesn't make anything,the water pumps are made by Graf,Hepu,Pierburg etc. Porsche will use any of these manufacturers because they make thousands of cars and a single manufacturer won't be able to keep up : they'll ask for a specific design/function and that's pretty much it. Just as you have warranty on the car from Porsche,the same Porsche has warranty for parts supplied by those companies. The failures are on the manufacturers although the blame is on the company that puts its name with big letters on the back,the parts manufacturers are unknown to 90% of the customers.
Old 03-27-2024, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by neanicu
Porsche doesn't make anything,the water pumps are made by Graf,Hepu,Pierburg etc.
I know that as I have worked at car and motorcycle dealerships in the distant past.

Originally Posted by neanicu
They'll ask for a specific design/function and that's pretty much it.
And that is where the problem lies. This is not a pump that fits on some other car; it was a Porsche design and requirement.

By the way, it still doesn't answer my question. What did Porsche do to change the .2 coolant pump to make it more reliable or did they just increase the warranty period on it.

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Old 03-27-2024, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by IXLR8
By the way, it still doesn't answer my question. What did Porsche do to change the .2 coolant pump to make it more reliable or did they just increase the warranty period on it.
Because the reliability of the part is given by the manufacturer,Porsche has no involvement.
These water pumps are simple devices,extremely simple IMO. The bearing fails and coolant starts seeping out of the weep hole,nothing more complicated than a 1973 Chevy water pump. Use a high quality bearing,shield it from moisture and debris and it will last a long time,very simple. But then the manufacturing process would be more expensive and their profit would be smaller,again...very simple.
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Originally Posted by neanicu
These water pumps are simple devices,extremely simple IMO. The bearing fails and coolant starts seeping out of the weep hole,nothing more complicated than a 1973 Chevy water pump.
Exactly, so why is it they fail so often on a 991.2, if they are such "extremely simple" devices? The answer is, they over-complicated the .2 coolant pump. And what, to save the planet.
Old 03-27-2024, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by IXLR8
Exactly, so why is it they fail so often on a 991.2, if they are such "extremely simple" devices? The answer is, they over-complicated the .2 coolant pump. And what, to save the planet.
The 991.1 water pumps failed just as much.


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