MJones

Attended the 3 day PSDS course....

The 991 is not really ready for prime time....
One of the last classes that still has both the 997 and 991 which enables you to drive both cars back to back,
the general consensus of the class is that the 997 is a better car..

The car has been designed for the lady's and the enthusiast has been left out...

If nobody told you the 991 had electric power steering you wouldn't know...

The torque vectoring is just plain weird the way it works...

The 3/4 rear view the car resembles a mini Panamera...

The PDK in Sport mode it keeps down shifting when the detent is passed, even with little RPM's left...makes it a PIA to drive...

The car may be wider in track but the interior is narrower, your knee rubs the speaker under hard cornering, a not too pleasant experience, where the 997 does not...

The best car in the class was the 997 GT3 by far!

ManhattanSpin

Pretty sure the interior is wider, almost positive actually.

I am sort of just going to trust the folks at Motor Trend, Road&Track, NY Times, Car&Driver, etc. who have all said this is not only the best 911 ever, but the best all-around sports car in the world.

But thanks for your $.02!

Bill_C4S

But rather echoes the less than enthralled vantage of EVO...

Me thinks many 911 enthusiasts - count me as one - continue to seek something more....visceral?

ADias

MJones: Be ready... they are coming.

disden

I find it funny that everytime a new car comes out, whether it is a Porsche or BMW or Ferrari (ect ect), that the so called "enthusiasts" are outraged. I guess these car companies are supposed to ignore modern technology and updated safety equipment? In seven years or so when the next 911 arrives, no doubt the same will be said how it too was ruined versus the 991.

Le Chef

Everyone at a track day is likely to want to drive the car on the track, and those not there have no interest in ever taking their car to the track. Those who were at the track are not the majority of 911 owners; many of whom probably drive to the country club at weekends, but not much more. On that basis the 991 probably fits their needs and wants to a tee (or is it T?).

What would be interesting is to give 911 virgins (no Sir Richard, not you) a free choice of like-for-like spec 997 and 991's to be driven on the road, city, backroad, track, and highway, and then see which they preferred. Let's face it a bit of snobbery probably creeps in here: just because you've driven a 911 before though doesn't make you a superior being, just different.

And in the evolutionary tree there are always going to be guys who would prefer no power steering, no traction control, stick shift, not adjustable dampers, no power brakes, and no sport setting. Back in time some of them probably chose Morgan and some of them probably chose the 911. Piltdown Man likely argued on blogs about which one was more authentic and why neither should change. Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose...

Salj

Well...I'll chime in

I have had a 991S with PDCC, PDC, Sport Chrono, Sport Exhaust for 2+ months and 3 track weekends (2x Sebring; 1 Homestead w/turns 3&4 open). I am coming from a modified Boxster Spyder track car.The 991 can mix it up with .2 GT3's in the right hands. Just need to keep the revs >5k. When you pop the paddles at 7k the car catapults forward. There is plenty of top end in this car. Im getting to 140mph at the end of the Sebring back straight in Sport Plus 4th gear. A better driver would probably get to fifth gear with more speed.

Turn-in is amazing and I see the torque vectoring as a plus. Tire wear is very even with PDCC and I will probably get several more days out of them...then it's on to Michelin Pilot Super Sports.

Rushman71

Somehow I don't put much weight in the opinions of people who still need performance driving school.

frayed

Well that's silly. Any day at the track independent of origination is a good thing.

Anyway, having had a number of porsches there is no doubt in my mind that the mothership pushed the envelope further with the new metal. In terms of performance, Stuttgart always moves it forward. Whether it's a compelling purchase is a different story.

TommyV44

MJones....get ready to duck.....and fast!!!! Methinks it's already too late

TommyV44

God.....just look at the thing.....it looks like a GD Maserati!

bonehead

I enjoyed the Performance course back when it was only 997's. I'm taking a pass on the Masters for a number of reasons, the main one being that the 991's will likely be the only cars available by the time I could make it back.

Were the student's driving the GT3? We only had C2S's and Cayman's (PDK's and 6 speeds).

tgcrun

You can't please everyone, and neither can Porsche. What matters is what YOU think of the car. I, for one, am seriously looking forward to July when my 991S Cab arrives. It's gonna be a fantastic late summer/early fall.

ADias

Obviously, you do not know MJones.

Bill_C4S

Indeed...rushman71 you might want to check the history before slinging arrows....