A question for 991 MT owners
#16
#17
Nordschleife Master
I have driven a 991S with the 7 speed manual. Loved it! My dealer is fortunate enough to have some fantastic back roads 1 mile away from the dealership so I believe that made a big difference.
I agree with the poster above,you might want to give it another try before deciding.
Good luck!
I agree with the poster above,you might want to give it another try before deciding.
Good luck!
#18
Rennlist Member
manual driver x 42 years...the shifters in the 981 and 991 feel pretty similarly
"porsche -like " to me , and any differences would not be noticable unless you owned and drove both on alternate days , and after acclimation , one doen't much pay attn to just the shifter feel in everyday driving as there are a lot of other things going on
I'm sure we all experience very different throttle/ brake pedal feel and calibration in each of our cars, but after a while , you don't think about it, it becomes part of our muscle memory
"porsche -like " to me , and any differences would not be noticable unless you owned and drove both on alternate days , and after acclimation , one doen't much pay attn to just the shifter feel in everyday driving as there are a lot of other things going on
I'm sure we all experience very different throttle/ brake pedal feel and calibration in each of our cars, but after a while , you don't think about it, it becomes part of our muscle memory
#19
Thanks, guys. Their test drive loop is completely inadequate, IMO, but nothing I can do about that. The break in process comments are interesting, as my 981 felt the same shifting from 12 miles on the odometer on the way home from the dealer as it did today at 4600 miles.
Your comments make it sound less hopeless than it seemed but my wife thought it was unacceptable in a $100K+ car, especially since the Boxster is so well done.
I wanted to switch to a 9-10 month car instead of a 5-6 month one, but now I'm not sure.
Your comments make it sound less hopeless than it seemed but my wife thought it was unacceptable in a $100K+ car, especially since the Boxster is so well done.
I wanted to switch to a 9-10 month car instead of a 5-6 month one, but now I'm not sure.
#20
I went from a Boxster S to a (991) C4S, both manual. Your impressions on the two transmission are spot on. The Boxster has a smoother shift, in fact it was a selling point for me to originally getting one. However, the 991 is a more refined package overall, I've gotten used to the MT and would take the 991 over the 981.
#21
I'm only about 800 miles into mine, but one thing I've noticed is that the shifts are tight until the car warms up. So, not sure how long your test drive was, but that could be a factor.
That being said- I spent 6 months and probably 20 test drives in different 991's, all with the PDK- I never thought about the MT. I always came away thinking there was something missing, flashes of excitement, but not "I gotta have it".
Then one day, I test drove the manual for the hell of it. 10 minutes in, I had to have it. This is my first 911, and the MT really helped me explore the power band. It's just too much fun!
That being said- I spent 6 months and probably 20 test drives in different 991's, all with the PDK- I never thought about the MT. I always came away thinking there was something missing, flashes of excitement, but not "I gotta have it".
Then one day, I test drove the manual for the hell of it. 10 minutes in, I had to have it. This is my first 911, and the MT really helped me explore the power band. It's just too much fun!
#22
Instructor
10K on my 2013 991s MT, coming from a 2010 BoxsterS, and have no complaints about the MT shifting. As others have said, it either gets smoother or it's you becoming more accustomed to it, but it's a pleasure.
#24
Years ago I was in a similar position. I ended up selling my wife's shoes and bracelets, then I was able to afford two Porsches.
If you don't do that, keep the current car for a while and really run it, enjoy it, buy a 911 another day.
If you don't do that, keep the current car for a while and really run it, enjoy it, buy a 911 another day.
#27
#28
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
She laughed. A little, but not as much as I did...
#29
I hardly ever think about putting it in 7th as I am so used to my (now gone) 997.2 6 speed. The 7th gear really does drop the RPM's...kind of weird on a sports car (but so is the auto-stop feature).
#30
I'm only about 800 miles into mine, but one thing I've noticed is that the shifts are tight until the car warms up. So, not sure how long your test drive was, but that could be a factor.
That being said- I spent 6 months and probably 20 test drives in different 991's, all with the PDK- I never thought about the MT. I always came away thinking there was something missing, flashes of excitement, but not "I gotta have it".
Then one day, I test drove the manual for the hell of it. 10 minutes in, I had to have it. This is my first 911, and the MT really helped me explore the power band. It's just too much fun!
That being said- I spent 6 months and probably 20 test drives in different 991's, all with the PDK- I never thought about the MT. I always came away thinking there was something missing, flashes of excitement, but not "I gotta have it".
Then one day, I test drove the manual for the hell of it. 10 minutes in, I had to have it. This is my first 911, and the MT really helped me explore the power band. It's just too much fun!
It's tight when cold, overall is fantastic, and has loosened up over the 4000 miles I've driven. Just love it, and it's seriously more of a 5 + overdrive in the US, maybe 6 is useful in Germany.
I had the same test drive experience - I had been lusting for the 991, took a PDK out and... meh. I mean, the handling was great, and it was really nice, and it was fast, but it totally didn't thrill me whether in auto or "manual" mode. I took an MT out, couldn't wipe the smile off my face, and ordered immediately after. It was just so much more fun for me.
Anyway, I think it's a very nice feeling shifter in any case, it definitely seems to me that it has only gotten better over time.