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Old 11-15-2016, 10:54 AM
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That Mexico Blue C2S is gorgeous!
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Hey Rennlisters,

Just wanted to provide an update on my 911, which I picked up 2 months ago, in no small part thanks to STG and HFS.

A couple weeks ago I received the dreaded "Fault cooling system" error in the dash:



I was just cruising around downtown at the time so I didn't really understand why I should be having a cooling system issue. After a quick web search, I found these threads:

https://rennlist.com/forums/991/8792...tem-fault.html
https://rennlist.com/forums/991/836119-check-light.html
https://rennlist.com/forums/991/8002...-on-991-a.html
http://plenums.blogspot.com/2016/10/...-overview.html

Extra thanks to plenum and his blog page, which concisely outlines the change-over valve system in the 991. Based on my perusal of the data, I came to the conclusion of a failure of the COV responsible for turning my PSE on and off. I missed my snaps, crackles, and pops, that's for sure.

I scheduled an appointment with my local dealer, Porsche of San Diego. I'm happy to report that everything went as smoothly as could be. They replaced two COVs - with the latest "F" variant with new wiring harnesses - and now my snap crackle and pops are back .

My service writer at PSD was Kevin Schugar. He was very knowledgeable about the COV issue and kept me informed throughout the repair process.





They also provided me a Macan as a loaner. I am not really an SUV guy, but I was pleasantly surprised at how Porsche was able to make a 2-ton slab of metal with a high center of gravity feel nimble and agile. If you're in the market for something in this class, put the Macan on your shortlist.



After two months and even despite this COV failure, my 911 is a thing of joy to drive. I have even grown comfy with the multifunction wheel and the "backwards" shifter. Drive yours in good health!

Old 11-16-2016, 09:00 AM
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^^^ r00t61, thanks for sharing. Great write ups too.

I had my COV's proactively all changed on my 2012.5 C2S over a year ago at my expense when the car was in service. Overkill? Sure, but worth saving a trip and irritation if one goes out and wondering what it is or if not detected right away depending which one it is.

They are covered under warranty (if they fail) and aren't very expense if they go out of warranty.

By the way, here is a link to your great purchase story for the guys here. Glad to hear you're enjoying the 991 C4S!

https://rennlist.com/forums/991/9543...stitute-2.html

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Old 11-16-2016, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by STG
^^^ r00t61, thanks for sharing. Great write ups too.

I had my COV's proactively all changed on my 2012.5 C2S over a year ago at my expense when the car was in service. Overkill? Sure, but worth saving a trip and irritation if one goes out and wondering what it is or if not detected right away depending which one it is.

They are covered under warranty (if they fail) and aren't very expense if they go out of warranty.

By the way, here is a link to your great purchase story for the guys here. Glad to hear you're enjoying the 991 C4S!

https://rennlist.com/forums/991/9543...stitute-2.html
I had COVs replaced on my previous 2012.5 991S replaced twice - once for heater failure and once for PSE failure. This was after a previous campaign (under the previous owner) replaced the earlier versions. No problems after the last change, though.

Common enough issue in 991's - replaced under warranty, no problem.

With my current 991S, I have yet to have any problems, thankfully.
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I was clueless to what the COV's (Change Over Valves / Solenoids) were before researching them. I'm a novice when it comes to mechanical stuff. They are just electronic switches pretty much. Word has it that there may have been moisture issues with the first batches causing failure (moisture getting into the plugs or harness). The new versions have new COV's and wiring harnesses. They also updated the versions as the years went on. 2014, 2015, 2016 ...


FYI

There are 6 for manual cars and no PSE.

Add one each if you have PDK and PSE which would be 7 or a grand total of 8.

I believe the X51 Powerkit may add another 2 as well.

Nothing really to get worried about, but reading the above links can be helpful knowing the symptoms so the problem can be easily diagnosed.



https://rennlist.com/forums/991/8002...n-991-a-2.html

http://plenums.blogspot.com/2016/10/...rview.html?m=1
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Originally Posted by STG
I was clueless to what the COV's (Change Over Valves / Solenoids) were before researching them. I'm a novice when it comes to mechanical stuff. They are just electronic switches pretty much. Word has it that there may have been moisture issues with the first batches causing failure (moisture getting into the plugs or harness). The new versions have new COV's and wiring harnesses. They also updated the versions as the years went on. 2014, 2015, 2016 ...


FYI

There are 6 for manual cars and no PSE.

Add one each if you have PDK and PSE which would be 7 or a grand total of 8.

I believe the X51 Powerkit may add another 2 as well.

Nothing really to get worried about, but reading the above links can be helpful knowing the symptoms so the problem can be easily diagnosed.



https://rennlist.com/forums/991/8002...n-991-a-2.html
Old 11-16-2016, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Hurricane
Oh, and add 3 more if you have PSP!


Just kidding...
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Originally Posted by gota911
Oh, and add 3 more if you have PSP!


Just kidding...
You are trying to give me a heart attack... So many COVs to worry about!

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Been following this thread forever and thought I would contribute.

This is a good looking cab that has been for sale for a while. Think the price is still a little high though.

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...ink=true&Log=0


Old 11-17-2016, 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by JMaples
Been following this thread forever and thought I would contribute.

This is a good looking cab that has been for sale for a while. Think the price is still a little high though.

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...ink=true&Log=0


Beachwood Porsche is are typically higher priced
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Originally Posted by JMaples
Been following this thread forever and thought I would contribute.

This is a good looking cab that has been for sale for a while. Think the price is still a little high though.

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...ink=true&Log=0


Wow, that is sharp looking!
Old 11-17-2016, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by JMaples
Been following this thread forever and thought I would contribute.

This is a good looking cab that has been for sale for a while. Think the price is still a little high though.

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...ink=true&Log=0


Here's the build sheet for this one, pretty rare Amaranth Red color.

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2015 C2S Aerokit Cup. Only 11K miles and $37K off MSRP. Could be a bit cheaper, but one to watch or start throwing offers at.








https://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistor...AB2A93FS110190

http://www.machensford.com/used/Pors...earchDepth=1:2
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X51 POWERKIT !!!! Same as the GTS



Go get it boys. CPO too! Don't say I never did anything for you brothers! $55K off MSRP. Will NOT last long. Surprised if it's even still available.

Cars like this put HFS on the map

Manual
No sunroof
PDCC
SPASM
X51 (includes SC and PSE)!
NO PSP





https://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistor...&partner=CCO_0

http://www.porscheoftysons.com/detai...-15704569.html

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Old 11-17-2016, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by STG
X51 POWERKIT !!!! Same as the GTS



Go get it boys. CPO too! Don't say I never did anything for you brothers! $55K off MSRP. Will NOT last long. Surprised if it's even still available.

Cars like this put HFS on the map

Manual
No sunroof
PDCC
SPASM
X51 (includes SC and PSE)!





https://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistor...&partner=CCO_0

http://www.porscheoftysons.com/detai...-15704569.html
If anybody is interested, call Pat Driscoll. He is a cool SA and straight shooter. If you need his email or phone number, send me a PM. I'll be there on Tuesday to pick up my car and can take a look at it.


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