Originally Posted by diesel1

No trade, I sold my car after I signed the lease. I think I had good timing and two out of the three dealers know me fairly well from past purchases. I took my time negotiating(3 weeks) and didn't back down from my numbers. Ultimately I had to show the dealers the others offers in writing. I went back and forth between them to get there bottom line figures. On the day I signed the papers I went to dealer with the car I wanted and said I am taking home a car today if you can get closer to 14% (they where at 10% MF was the same) I will take yours, if not I'm leaving in the next 1/2 hour to get the other gts. I think there are still deals out there to be had on the 15's just stick to your guns. Remember they are new cars but are basically two model years old just sitting on the lot, dealers need to move them. I was told the dealer has 10% off msrp before they lose money, but some how all three dealers where able to get below that. So trunk money, hold back or incentives are in play. I hope this helps. If anyone wants more info let me know

Originally Posted by Hothonda

Have the itch again & now doing my due diligence w/too much time on my hands.

Made an appointment at a local dealer, knew they had a car that would work. Negotiations ensued with them telling me what their BS costs were and etc etc -
said just give me my cost OK?

We were getting nowhere near my reality (IMO), but they needed to throw in the fact they just sold a $140K 991 and gave a $1K discount. Am I supposed to be impressed?

The thing is, dealers claim the people who post on forums w/prices paid are in so many words are lying. My opinion is just the opposite on who's lying.

All aren't that way, in fact found one that's fair 1800 miles away.

Not happening locally.

Originally Posted by studlee

PNW car dealers are all snobs. i lived in so. cal and we always taked invoice pricing. here in washington all dealers start with MSRP. what is this all about.