2000 miles, really?
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2000 miles, really?
I new here and just picked up my first P-car. C2S. The official breakin says " no more than 4K for 2k miles. Is this a good idea. I'm thinking
It might bad that at all at once the engine is taken WOT. Maybe slowly working up to redline is better. Always at normal oil temp. What is your experiences and opinions.
Thanks.
It might bad that at all at once the engine is taken WOT. Maybe slowly working up to redline is better. Always at normal oil temp. What is your experiences and opinions.
Thanks.
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My thought is simple, follow the manual!
I did as I plan on keeping the GTS for a long time.
If it's fiction, you lose nothing more than a month or 2 to break the 4K-mile limit, If true you risk premature engine wear and tear. Your mileage may vary, literally.
I did as I plan on keeping the GTS for a long time.
If it's fiction, you lose nothing more than a month or 2 to break the 4K-mile limit, If true you risk premature engine wear and tear. Your mileage may vary, literally.
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I follow the book.
I do an early oil change (1,000 miles).
My car's UOAs are excellent.
My car makes great power.
I do not need oil between oil changes.
I do an early oil change (1,000 miles).
My car's UOAs are excellent.
My car makes great power.
I do not need oil between oil changes.
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Over the years I've noted many different break-in routines, with the following ultimate list that I've compiled:
Or you could do what I do and just drive it.
- As soon as the car comes off the transporter, make sure that the dealer parks it.
- Hire a flat-bed to take it to a competent P-car shop.
- Drain the factory oil, which is likely synthetic.
- Fill with good old dino-oil, which helps ensure a better seal.
- Flat-bed the car to your house, park it, and let the dino-oil cure for 3 days.
- On the third day, roll the car into the sun for pre-warming. If the highs aren't in the 70s, wait until Spring, or use a bank of hair dryers.
- Crank the car, immediately turning it off if you notice any odd noises. Boxer engines and P-cars in general make lots of mechanical noises, but if it seems "odd" in any way, don't take any chances.
- Let the car warm up to operating temperature, ensuring that you don't press on the gas pedal. Let it idle for 5 minutes at that temp, then shut it off.
- Cool the car down slowly, so as to not cause the oil to form scabs or clots.
- Roll the car back into the garage and leave it there for 3 more days.
- The oil should be fully cured, so you can drive it for 5 to 10 miles each day, with ample warm-up and cool-down periods.
- 4000 RPM is okay if you need to pass, but in general you should keep the RPMs below 2500 RPM. Pretend that there is a Prius driver in the back seat scowling and berating you for hurting the environment.
- After 1000 miles, flat-bed the car to the shop and have them replace the cured dino-oil with fresh Porsche-specific synthetic oil. You can drive the car home, parking it on top of newspaper to make leak spotting easier.
- Send the dino-oil off for analysis. If you're in a hurry, have the shipping expedited, as you won't be driving the car until the analysis is back.
- Check the newspaper daily for leaks, and check the mail a few times a day to see if the analysis comes back.
- If the analysis comes back clean, you're good to go for phase 2.
- For the next 1000 miles, 4000 RPM is still the absolute max, but you can increase the typical shift point upwards from 2500 RPM in 100 RPM increments for each 250 miles. By the time you reach the 2000 mile mark, you'll be shifting at 3500 RPM routinely!
- You can now drive as much as 30 miles per day without trouble, so the next 1000 miles will only take slightly more than a month.
- At the 2000 mile mark you should take the car to your P-car specialist for a full oil-change, along with new spark plugs, air filters, oil filters, etc.
- After the P-car specialist is done, take the car to the Porsche dealership and have them do a full inspection. Ask them not to test-drive the car, unless they are just puttering around the lot.
- Once past 2000 miles and the car has passed inspection, you can increase the shift-point upwards to where you're comfortable.
- Winding the car out isn't the most efficient, but if you occasionally exceed 5000 RPM, no worries, as your car can handle it thanks to your diligence!
- If you go to a PCA event, do not let an instructor drive your car, as they will likely not adhere to the same guidelines that you do.
- Explain to them that you expect to become a competent "momentum driver" like those who drive Spec Miatas, as you can simply carry speed through corners rather than abusing the brakes and engine.
Or you could do what I do and just drive it.
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Originally Posted by LexVan
I follow the book.
I do an early oil change (1,000 miles).
My car's UOAs are excellent.
My car makes great power.
I do not need oil between oil changes.
I do an early oil change (1,000 miles).
My car's UOAs are excellent.
My car makes great power.
I do not need oil between oil changes.
When we bought the '15 at the end of April, I had the dealer perform an oil change before we accepted delivery. The car had 67 miles on the clock at the time. I followed the proper break-in mileage and always warm up the car before exceeding 2-3k RPMs. Next oil change will be next Spring, I'm guessing at 5k miles at that point. If I exceed 5k this year, it's going in for fresh oil. Paying $250-300 is a small price compared to paying for engine repairs.
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The car as built on the 24 of Sept. 2015. It will be a year old in just over a week. I'm going change the oil and filter when I get 1k. It has 650 miles now. I don't trust the dealer so I'll be doing my own servicing unless a warranty issue comes up. Seems most follow the Owners Manual and I always have but I've never seen the breakin this long.
I did have the car shipped from St.Louis to here in Gulf Breeze, Fl. so I could do the breakin without long periods of constant freeway steady state RPM. No short trips now ( at least 40-50 miles and always getting the oil temp up to normal. The power and torque really starts to come in at above 3k rpm, can't wait to feel it from 3k to redline.
Thanks for the feedback.
I did have the car shipped from St.Louis to here in Gulf Breeze, Fl. so I could do the breakin without long periods of constant freeway steady state RPM. No short trips now ( at least 40-50 miles and always getting the oil temp up to normal. The power and torque really starts to come in at above 3k rpm, can't wait to feel it from 3k to redline.
Thanks for the feedback.
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The very best thing you can do to any new engine is to vary the load and make sure there is some load, not lugging but enough to bed the rings in properly. 2000 miles? Give me a break. Lawyer hogwash.
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The car as built on the 24 of Sept. 2015. It will be a year old in just over a week. I'm going change the oil and filter when I get 1k. It has 650 miles now. I don't trust the dealer so I'll be doing my own servicing unless a warranty issue comes up. Seems most follow the Owners Manual and I always have but I've never seen the breakin this long.
I did have the car shipped from St.Louis to here in Gulf Breeze, Fl. so I could do the breakin without long periods of constant freeway steady state RPM. No short trips now ( at least 40-50 miles and always getting the oil temp up to normal. The power and torque really starts to come in at above 3k rpm, can't wait to feel it from 3k to redline.
Thanks for the feedback.
I did have the car shipped from St.Louis to here in Gulf Breeze, Fl. so I could do the breakin without long periods of constant freeway steady state RPM. No short trips now ( at least 40-50 miles and always getting the oil temp up to normal. The power and torque really starts to come in at above 3k rpm, can't wait to feel it from 3k to redline.
Thanks for the feedback.
It's a car, meant to be driven and therefore constantly oiled as its driven. Drive it. Yes you paid a lot for it, but it's not the Mona Lisa.
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All this makes zero sense to me. These cars are driven HARD, for short periods of time, in a series of unforgiving paroxysms of enthusiasm, by multiple people, when they are test-driven from the dealerships just miles after explusion from their German whombs.
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