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Old 11-29-2020, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by smiles11
The 991 was dated the moment it was released. Porsche finally decided to get with the times on the 992.
The designers of the 992 interior specifically stated that they emulated the architecture of the >50 year old interior from the first air-cooled 911’s.
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Originally Posted by GrantG
The designers of the 992 interior specifically stated that they emulated the architecture of the >50 year old interior from the first air-cooled 911’s.
That is my favorite part. Some retro design elements mixed with technology used today.

Don’t get me wrong, I never had a problem with the 991 interior. I was just addressing comments about it looking “dated”. It just never matched the times. There’s no doubt Porsche took short cuts updating it from the 997.

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That video was a well-spent 40 minutes on a Saturday. Chris Harris cracked me up when he was going to pause AP from unwrapping the new 992 before he caught himself - don't let him change his mind!

The swan neck wing looks better than the mule version, but it would look *better* on a touring (as in, not there). Am I'm not convinced the 992 front and rear styling will grow on me as other prior models have over time. The blue color will likely crush a good number of alternative PTS blues - MUCH better hue than Miami. On the subject of PTS, the rumor I've heard is that Porsche is going to trim the number of PTS colors this time around. Doesn't matter to me, I'll be sticking with my 991.2.

If I was able to ask AP one question it would be: Why does the car have to keep getting bigger?
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Old 11-29-2020, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by WernerE
That video was a well-spent 40 minutes on a Saturday. Chris Harris cracked me up when he was going to pause AP from unwrapping the new 992 before he caught himself - don't let him change his mind!

The swan neck wing looks better than the mule version, but it would look *better* on a touring (as in, not there). Am I'm not convinced the 992 front and rear styling will grow on me as other prior models have over time. The blue color will likely crush a good number of alternative PTS blues - MUCH better hue than Miami. On the subject of PTS, the rumor I've heard is that Porsche is going to trim the number of PTS colors this time around. Doesn't matter to me, I'll be sticking with my 991.2.

If I was able to ask AP one question it would be: Why does the car have to keep getting bigger?
Because small cars don't sell.

At least not enough to make sense to the bean counters.
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
Because small cars don't sell.

At least not enough to make sense to the bean counters.
I think that's right...how many people look at car reviews are are like, less legroom, less headroom, less cargo storage, perfect!
Old 11-29-2020, 02:51 PM
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What's the benefit of running 2 different wheel sizes ?
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Originally Posted by atlrvr
I think that's right...how many people look at car reviews are are like, less legroom, less headroom, less cargo storage, perfect!
I do. More room and cargo space is always great in an SUV, not so much in a sports car where weight affects feel and performance in major ways.

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Does anyone know the color of blue car in the back corner...gorgeous!
Old 11-29-2020, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by hf1
I do. More room and cargo space is always great in an SUV, not so much in a sports car where weight affects feel and performance in major ways.
agree completely
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Originally Posted by italiafan
Does anyone know the color of blue car in the back corner...gorgeous!
The Touring in the corner is Sapphire Blue and the one next to it is Iris Blue.
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Originally Posted by WernerE
If I was able to ask AP one question it would be: Why does the car have to keep getting bigger?
I know, right?!
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Originally Posted by WernerE
If I was able to ask AP one question it would be: Why does the car have to keep getting bigger?
That’s one thing not in AP’s control. He inherits the platform from Carrera/Turbo lines. The question needs to be asked of those responsible for the non-GT models.
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Old 11-30-2020, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by WernerE
If I was able to ask AP one question it would be: Why does the car have to keep getting bigger?
Two main reasons I believe:

i) Ongoing stricter crash test requirements in different markets... i.e. requirements to withstand side and frontal impacts from higher speeds requiring more crumple zone.

ii) Chassis dynamics - eg. the 991 was made longer to reduce rear engine overhang (bring the engine forward), wider track has given recent generations significant advantage on track... Thus why NBR times have been dropping so rapidly despite increase weight.

As others have said, the GT platform inherits what the regular 911 line requires to tick the boxes
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Originally Posted by Gauss
What's the benefit of running 2 different wheel sizes ?
Having a larger diameter rear wheel increases the amount of rubber that contacts the road along the axis of the vehicle which increases your acceleration potential. Especially true with rear engine cars.....i.e. only 911s.

You may have to read that a couple times to understand. Imagine a wheel 10 feet in diameter.......it will have more rubber on the road (even at the same width) along the axis of the car. I agree that 21 inches vs 20 inches wont make that much of a difference.....but the difference is greater than zero.

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Originally Posted by subshooter
Having a larger diameter rear wheel increases the amount of rubber that contacts the road along the axis of the vehicle which increases your acceleration potential. Especially true with rear engine cars.....i.e. only 911s.

You may have to read that a couple times to understand. Imagine a wheel 10 feet in diameter.......it will have more rubber on the road (even at the same width) along the axis of the car. I agree that 21 inches vs 20 inches wont make that much of a difference.....but the difference is greater than zero.
Yea, bigger circumference means bigger contact patch. But why make the back wheel bigger than the front? Historically, they have increased width to increase the patch, which is why we have staggered width. But why the actual rim. In theory, you could simply increase the tire circumference and leave the wheel the same, but then you get into more flex in corners, so I am assuming their is a happy balance for that for ride comfort and performance. I would also assume you want to have the same tire thickness (distance from road surface to rim) front and backs to keep the car balanced, ie more flex in the front vs back would be bad. But all this can be done with increasing both wheels and tires equally. Or did I explain this to myself. The wheel is bigger because they want this balance of tire thickness but wanted a bigger rear overall circumference and a bigger wheel was the answer.

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