Update on 2021 European Delivery Options
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Update on 2021 European Delivery Options
I am working on planning a European Delivery (ED) for my GT3 and learned a couple things that I wanted to share with the forum, some of which has info that applies to non-ED cars as well.
PCNA is not scheduling EDs until September due to covid travel restrictions (which may be lifted or not). Either way, GT3 EDs cannot be conducted until after September 17th. If you recall, this is the same date that all of us with early builds have scheduled for delivery. As suspected, this is the CAFE/EPA approval date which may shift or not. In the past, it has shifted right.
I also asked if I could do my ED earlier than Sept 17th since the car would not be imported into the US yet. Just ship it to the US after the EPA approval is obtained - easy right? They could not do this because the car counts as being sold to an American consumer on the day that I take custody of the car during ED even though it is not being driven in the US. I'm not sure if this is a legal issue or PCNA policy.
I'm now scheduled for an ED on Sep 28th which is the earliest date I could get for Leipzig but have PEC-ATL delivery as a backup if ED falls through. I plan on hitting the track in Leipzig included as part of the ED package (in a 991.2 GT3 I presume) and then take my car over to SPA and the Ring to break it in properly.
PCNA is not scheduling EDs until September due to covid travel restrictions (which may be lifted or not). Either way, GT3 EDs cannot be conducted until after September 17th. If you recall, this is the same date that all of us with early builds have scheduled for delivery. As suspected, this is the CAFE/EPA approval date which may shift or not. In the past, it has shifted right.
I also asked if I could do my ED earlier than Sept 17th since the car would not be imported into the US yet. Just ship it to the US after the EPA approval is obtained - easy right? They could not do this because the car counts as being sold to an American consumer on the day that I take custody of the car during ED even though it is not being driven in the US. I'm not sure if this is a legal issue or PCNA policy.
I'm now scheduled for an ED on Sep 28th which is the earliest date I could get for Leipzig but have PEC-ATL delivery as a backup if ED falls through. I plan on hitting the track in Leipzig included as part of the ED package (in a 991.2 GT3 I presume) and then take my car over to SPA and the Ring to break it in properly.
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I am working on planning a European Delivery (ED) for my GT3 and learned a couple things that I wanted to share with the forum, some of which has info that applies to non-ED cars as well.
PCNA is not scheduling EDs until September due to covid travel restrictions (which may be lifted or not). Either way, GT3 EDs cannot be conducted until after September 17th. If you recall, this is the same date that all of us with early builds have scheduled for delivery. As suspected, this is the CAFE/EPA approval date which may shift or not. In the past, it has shifted right.
I also asked if I could do my ED earlier than Sept 17th since the car would not be imported into the US yet. Just ship it to the US after the EPA approval is obtained - easy right? They could not do this because the car counts as being sold to an American consumer on the day that I take custody of the car during ED even though it is not being driven in the US. I'm not sure if this is a legal issue or PCNA policy.
I'm now scheduled for an ED on Sep 28th which is the earliest date I could get for Leipzig but have PEC-ATL delivery as a backup if ED falls through. I plan on hitting the track in Leipzig included as part of the ED package (in a 991.2 GT3 I presume) and then take my car over to SPA and the Ring to break it in properly.
PCNA is not scheduling EDs until September due to covid travel restrictions (which may be lifted or not). Either way, GT3 EDs cannot be conducted until after September 17th. If you recall, this is the same date that all of us with early builds have scheduled for delivery. As suspected, this is the CAFE/EPA approval date which may shift or not. In the past, it has shifted right.
I also asked if I could do my ED earlier than Sept 17th since the car would not be imported into the US yet. Just ship it to the US after the EPA approval is obtained - easy right? They could not do this because the car counts as being sold to an American consumer on the day that I take custody of the car during ED even though it is not being driven in the US. I'm not sure if this is a legal issue or PCNA policy.
I'm now scheduled for an ED on Sep 28th which is the earliest date I could get for Leipzig but have PEC-ATL delivery as a backup if ED falls through. I plan on hitting the track in Leipzig included as part of the ED package (in a 991.2 GT3 I presume) and then take my car over to SPA and the Ring to break it in properly.
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Nice going! I think you'll be offered a 992 GT3 to drive at the Leipzig track (I had a 991.2 GT3 there after it was just released about the same amount of time in advance - remember they show up in Europe earlier than here). I even got to drive a Manual (with Pink Pig livery wrap)
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not wanting to ruin your plans but we had a big peak of covid the last months, just after christmass, france closed the border and forced all their citizens to not travel outside by roads.
last summer happened a similar situation, just after vacations there was another covid wave.
i just expect the same thing as last year, we will have no restrictions on summer cause people need to breath and tourism industry needs to eat, but after august i honestly expect severe restrictions again
resuming : there is a high posibility you will not be able to travel for non working reasons to germany on september
last summer happened a similar situation, just after vacations there was another covid wave.
i just expect the same thing as last year, we will have no restrictions on summer cause people need to breath and tourism industry needs to eat, but after august i honestly expect severe restrictions again
resuming : there is a high posibility you will not be able to travel for non working reasons to germany on september
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What is your build completion date? I'm receiving mixed info on the EPA approval date, and delays related to ED and Covid.
Either way, I have a 6/25 build completion date, sounds like these cars will be sitting somewhere for months before we get our hands on them...
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Thanks for the info @subshooter. The covid situation in Europe is not looking good, but also hoping ED opens up before it gets cold this year otherwise it will be a 2022 affair.
Also hoping to do ED and will have PEC-ATL as backup. Was scheduled to pick up my C2S at Stuttgart last year then covid happened so I cancelled and rescheduled everything for PEC delivery which eventually got cancelled as well. Maybe I'd be luckier this time around with a GT3.
Believe you've done ED a couple times already so please share your latest and greatest itinerary to us if you don't mind.
Also hoping to do ED and will have PEC-ATL as backup. Was scheduled to pick up my C2S at Stuttgart last year then covid happened so I cancelled and rescheduled everything for PEC delivery which eventually got cancelled as well. Maybe I'd be luckier this time around with a GT3.
Believe you've done ED a couple times already so please share your latest and greatest itinerary to us if you don't mind.
Last edited by touringGT3; 04-27-2021 at 08:33 PM. Reason: happened
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EPA and PEC
My build is slotted to arrive at port on 9/3.
What dates do others have. I expect some cars will be here in mid-August.
What cars will they use for EPA approval?
How to you schedule Europe delivery with a PEC-ATL backup??
What dates do others have. I expect some cars will be here in mid-August.
What cars will they use for EPA approval?
How to you schedule Europe delivery with a PEC-ATL backup??
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Not sure you could actually schedule an ED and have another method of delivery as a backup, but how I've done it was when my ED was likely not going to happen I asked the ED folks to switch me to PEC delivery. Then while my car was at Emden port I was told PEC deliveries also have been cancelled so I asked for a dealer delivery but it was too late to change it by then so my car had to go thru Jacksonville Port in FL and had to be re-routed to my dealer from there.
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If you really want to do ED, you should postpone your order until next year this time. Much better chance of being able to do it.
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Not sure you could actually schedule an ED and have another method of delivery as a backup, but how I've done it was when my ED was likely not going to happen I asked the ED folks to switch me to PEC delivery. Then while my car was at Emden port I was told PEC deliveries also have been cancelled so I asked for a dealer delivery but it was too late to change it by then so my car had to go thru Jacksonville Port in FL and had to be re-routed to my dealer from there.
not wanting to ruin your plans but we had a big peak of covid the last months, just after christmass, france closed the border and forced all their citizens to not travel outside by roads.
last summer happened a similar situation, just after vacations there was another covid wave.
i just expect the same thing as last year, we will have no restrictions on summer cause people need to breath and tourism industry needs to eat, but after august i honestly expect severe restrictions again
resuming : there is a high posibility you will not be able to travel for non working reasons to germany on september
last summer happened a similar situation, just after vacations there was another covid wave.
i just expect the same thing as last year, we will have no restrictions on summer cause people need to breath and tourism industry needs to eat, but after august i honestly expect severe restrictions again
resuming : there is a high posibility you will not be able to travel for non working reasons to germany on september
EU might allow vaccinated US-citizens to travel to EU
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article in Dutch: https://www.demorgen.be/nieuws/von-d....google.com%2F
Thanks for the info @subshooter. The covid situation in Europe is not looking good, but also hoping ED opens up before it gets cold this year otherwise it will be a 2022 affair.
Also hoping to do ED and will have PEC-ATL as backup. Was scheduled to pick up my C2S at Stuttgart last year then covid happened so I cancelled and rescheduled everything for PEC delivery which eventually got cancelled as well. Maybe I'd be luckier this time around with a GT3.
Believe you've done ED a couple times already so please share your latest and greatest itinerary to us if you don't mind.
Also hoping to do ED and will have PEC-ATL as backup. Was scheduled to pick up my C2S at Stuttgart last year then covid happened so I cancelled and rescheduled everything for PEC delivery which eventually got cancelled as well. Maybe I'd be luckier this time around with a GT3.
Believe you've done ED a couple times already so please share your latest and greatest itinerary to us if you don't mind.
Last edited by subshooter; 04-28-2021 at 09:00 AM.
#14
I’d but up to consider a EU delivery!
I have a 6/25 build date. I’d be up for a EU delivery. I have a current ATL delivery set up for Sept.
I’ve been vaccinated.
What is your current delivery date in Germany?
I’ve been vaccinated.
What is your current delivery date in Germany?
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You may want to jump on your plans. There are no more Leipzig delivery dates available for September for a GT3. Some still available at Zuffenhausen. I also know that Germany requires winter tires and I am not sure when that date requirement commences? Do they even make winter tires that can be fitted on a GT3?
Last edited by subshooter; 04-28-2021 at 09:58 AM.