Notices
992 GT3 and GT2RS Forum 2019-Current
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

GT3 Lease

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-19-2021, 02:36 PM
  #1  
GT350R
Intermediate
Thread Starter
 
GT350R's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 36
Received 20 Likes on 7 Posts
Default GT3 Lease

Is anyone thinking of leasing the GT3? I just got a quote and either Porsche's money factor is horrible and/or the dealer is marking up the MF big time...0.0032 which equals a 7.68% interest rate on a 3 year lease with a 58% residual. Not a good lease.
Old 08-19-2021, 02:40 PM
  #2  
redmonkey928
Rennlist Member
 
redmonkey928's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 2,793
Received 317 Likes on 226 Posts
Default

I think somewhere on the older GT3 threads there were reports of the same, the cars dont lease out well but most are buying or using third-party options outside of PFS.
Old 08-19-2021, 02:45 PM
  #3  
GT350R
Intermediate
Thread Starter
 
GT350R's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 36
Received 20 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

I was planning on using Amazonleasing but the dealership won't take that for financing....probably because they're making more money leasing through Porsche.
Old 08-19-2021, 02:54 PM
  #4  
ipse dixit
RL Community Team
Rennlist Member
 
ipse dixit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 16,411
Likes: 0
Received 10,887 Likes on 4,817 Posts
Default

While Porsche lease rates are generally a bad deal (unless you have some major tax write-off in your backpocket), the lease rates for GT cars are the equivalent of a a Porsche dealer giving you an enema with the wrong side of a plunger.

That said, instead of leasing, why not just finance it? At the end of 3 years, given the depreciation of GT cars (or lack thereof), you'd probably still come out ahead, esp. nowadays with the low interest rate environment, even with auto loans.
The following 2 users liked this post by ipse dixit:
AlexCeres (08-26-2021), TET GT3 (08-19-2021)
Old 08-19-2021, 03:08 PM
  #5  
dieselino
Rennlist Member
 
dieselino's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 517
Received 243 Likes on 104 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by ipse dixit
the lease rates for GT cars are the equivalent of a a Porsche dealer giving you an enema with the wrong side of a plunger.
😂😂😂
The following users liked this post:
AlexCeres (08-26-2021)
Old 08-19-2021, 03:27 PM
  #6  
GT350R
Intermediate
Thread Starter
 
GT350R's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 36
Received 20 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

True true, the only real benefit to leasing versus purchasing is if you move on from the car in under 12 months to save California State taxes
Old 08-19-2021, 03:54 PM
  #7  
Jimmy-D
Race Director
 
Jimmy-D's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Midwest
Posts: 11,204
Received 1,401 Likes on 726 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by ipse dixit
While Porsche lease rates are generally a bad deal (unless you have some major tax write-off in your backpocket), the lease rates for GT cars are the equivalent of a a Porsche dealer giving you an enema with the wrong side of a plunger.

That said, instead of leasing, why not just finance it? At the end of 3 years, given the depreciation of GT cars (or lack thereof), you'd probably still come out ahead, esp. nowadays with the low interest rate environment, even with auto loans.
Agree with above
Old 08-19-2021, 04:40 PM
  #8  
konaforever
Burning Brakes
 
konaforever's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 1,097
Received 174 Likes on 86 Posts
Default

GT3 leases are the opposite of subsidized by Porsche.
The following users liked this post:
AlexCeres (08-26-2021)
Old 08-19-2021, 07:09 PM
  #9  
gt3dude
Instructor
 
gt3dude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2020
Posts: 237
Received 166 Likes on 74 Posts
Default

Why on earth would you lease a gt3? You’re probably looking at $3,500+ payment.
The following users liked this post:
rodneyr (08-23-2021)
Old 08-19-2021, 08:05 PM
  #10  
TET GT3
Racer
 
TET GT3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2021
Location: SoCal
Posts: 394
Received 167 Likes on 99 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by gt3dude
Why on earth would you lease a gt3? You’re probably looking at $3,500+ payment.
Yeah, it's a crazy concept. Might be the first time the OP is looking into this and getting quite the surprise.

These are not cars a smart person would lease.
Old 08-19-2021, 09:32 PM
  #11  
NYCGT3
Pro
 
NYCGT3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2021
Posts: 552
Received 218 Likes on 137 Posts
Default

Maybe some people can run a lease payment through a business……
Old 08-19-2021, 09:51 PM
  #12  
Chris C.
Rennlist Member
 
Chris C.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Bay Area CA
Posts: 3,160
Received 525 Likes on 277 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by GT350R
Is anyone thinking of leasing the GT3? I just got a quote and either Porsche's money factor is horrible and/or the dealer is marking up the MF big time...0.0032 which equals a 7.68% interest rate on a 3 year lease with a 58% residual. Not a good lease.
Always been this way in my 25 years of P-car purchases. Porsche leasing is simply unattractive. If you don't pay cash, run the numbers - with cheap financing these days (BofA at 2.2% currently) you can own the car in 5 years (or sell whenever) for the same as leasing for 3 with fewer issues if you decide to sell while in the note. YMMV, business write-offs are different, and other caveats apply.

Yes you pay full sales tax, but it is reality - dealing with this on the wife's 22 Cayenne EH. And then you get into issues with MRM - maximum residualized amounts, which kill you on leasing...

Last edited by Chris C.; 08-19-2021 at 09:55 PM.
The following users liked this post:
AlexCeres (08-26-2021)
Old 08-20-2021, 10:53 AM
  #13  
TET GT3
Racer
 
TET GT3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2021
Location: SoCal
Posts: 394
Received 167 Likes on 99 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by NYCGT3
Maybe some people can run a lease payment through a business……
For "normal" cars maybe, but hard to make a case for a GT3 for most legit businesses.
The following users liked this post:
lockie (08-20-2021)
Old 08-20-2021, 09:29 PM
  #14  
Rob996
Pro
 
Rob996's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Northeast
Posts: 512
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Leasing these cars makes no sense, especially with low interest rates and high resale values.

Old 08-20-2021, 10:39 PM
  #15  
GT350R
Intermediate
Thread Starter
 
GT350R's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 36
Received 20 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

Like I said, the only reason to lease a GT3 is if you live in a high tax state like California and you don't plan on keeping the car for a long period of time. If you purchase a $200,000 car, you owe the state of CA $17K (est.) in taxes on day 1. If you lease the car and end up selling the car in 6 months, you only pay taxes on your d/p and monthly payment so arguably you save a good portion of the $17K in state taxes that you would have paid. You can get out of a lease at any time, it's just like a loan payoff. BUT when Porsche charges you a 7.8% interest rate, it doesn't make sense. But for my 2021 M5 with a 1.9% interest rate on the lease, it makes all the sense in the world. I've leased over 15 cars and have never kept one for the term, just a great way to not pay taxes when you rotate out of cars.


Quick Reply: GT3 Lease



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 10:47 PM.