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Old 10-22-2021, 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Karl911
I track my car and extremely hard , but run PCCBs , switch to (Surface transformation) PCCB s , cheaper to run then steel .
ST s cost $ 3000 to refurbish fronts . Brakes are never an issue!
How many times have you refurbished?
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Originally Posted by Karl911
I track my car and extremely hard , but run PCCBs , switch to (Surface transformation) PCCB s , cheaper to run then steel .
ST s cost $ 3000 to refurbish fronts . Brakes are never an issue!
ST Are Great, but they Are not a cheaper solution to steels. The initial outlay cost is high at $12k, then refurbishment costs more then replacement new rotors. A great product, but it’s not a cost saver
Old 10-23-2021, 02:11 AM
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If you refurbish twice it is close. But the advantage, and consistent performance is worth it.
I am fortunate cost is not a deterrent for me.
Old 10-23-2021, 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by disden
ST Are Great, but they Are not a cheaper solution to steels. The initial outlay cost is high at $12k, then refurbishment costs more then replacement new rotors. A great product, but it’s not a cost saver
ST fans talk about refurb. But we never hear from anyone that actually puts their car up in the air and leaves it for weeks without rotors while they ship them back and forth for refurb, and reports back on how the refurbs perform. Not to mention doing that multiple times…
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Originally Posted by Mech33
ST fans talk about refurb. But we never hear from anyone that actually puts their car up in the air and leaves it for weeks without rotors while they ship them back and forth for refurb, and reports back on how the refurbs perform. Not to mention doing that multiple times…
You put the Stock PCCBs back on! Also ST last longer

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Old 10-23-2021, 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by TinyTempo
Yes, the brakes are an issue. Mine (steel) were ruined at the front after two trackdays, the first which I only drove hard for the first half, it rained in the afternoon. They sent the rotors to Porsche for inspection, apparently there seems to be a common problem with the brakes on the 992 GT3 I was told...
What happened? How were they ruined?
Old 10-23-2021, 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by disden
ST Are Great, but they Are not a cheaper solution to steels. The initial outlay cost is high at $12k, then refurbishment costs more then replacement new rotors. A great product, but it’s not a cost saver
Really? I was quoted 1200 pound to refurb my rotors on the Pista. That's a hell of a lot less than a full set of Giro or AP discs last I checked.
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Old 10-23-2021, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by CarManDSL
Been discussed here, GT3 DIY Sound Insulation; https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-...nsulation.html
Ah thanks!

i know some did install rear seats in their 991 Tourings. I haven't gotten my T yet, but I am looking into this. Anybody else thinking about it? With the 991 GT3T, I have been told that all the bracketry was still in place, so seat installation was pretty straight forward. Anoone who have any insight into this on a 992 GT3?
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Originally Posted by Mech33
ST fans talk about refurb. But we never hear from anyone that actually puts their car up in the air and leaves it for weeks without rotors while they ship them back and forth for refurb, and reports back on how the refurbs perform. Not to mention doing that multiple times…
great point, have friends who have waited months for theirs. I like the AP rotors, cost is reasonable and you can save further by replacing the rotor only and re-use the hats . ST are without a doubt a better product, but for me not worth the cost.

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After having previously expressed concern - I can say after 650 miles (under 7k) this car is a beast and seems just as raw (and in fact better in every way note the motor and steering). In fact, it seems louder (drove it on a 300 mile trip this weekend and i could barely hear the bose stereo whereas I def could in my 991.1). Happy I chose this over a 488!
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Originally Posted by troppo
After having previously expressed concern - I can say after 650 miles (under 7k) this car is a beast and seems just as raw (and in fact better in every way note the motor and steering). In fact, it seems louder (drove it on a 300 mile trip this weekend and i could barely hear the bose stereo whereas I def could in my 991.1). Happy I chose this over a 488!
I’m at 600 miles too. A couple of more days to hit 9k RPMs!!
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I found that the 991.1 was more raw than the 991.2 which felt oddly refined and soft compared to the .1. The .1 sounded better too IMO. The 3.8 makes a different noise compared to the 4.0.

While the 4.0 and the .2/992 are the better cars in nearly every way, the 991.1 has more character even in the looks department. I'm a big fan of the front bumper.
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Old 11-14-2021, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by troppo
After having previously expressed concern - I can say after 650 miles (under 7k) this car is a beast and seems just as raw (and in fact better in every way note the motor and steering). In fact, it seems louder (drove it on a 300 mile trip this weekend and i could barely hear the bose stereo whereas I def could in my 991.1). Happy I chose this over a 488!
I dont think anyone would be able to tell these cars apart above 7k rpm. The question is how are they below 4k rpm, around town driving? You dont want to experience rawness at going to jail speeds because then you are never experiencing it in street for more than a few seconds every 10-15 minutes.

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Yeah I have 45k miles in a 991.1 around town and track. To me its splitting hairs this thing is a BEAST. Enjoy...
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"raw" is subjective
991 I thought was quite tame.
992 will likely be ever more so.
all depends on what you are accustomed to drive


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