Second catastrophic transmission failure....
03-28-2023, 09:35 PM
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Second catastrophic transmission failure....
So a few hundred miles after buying the car the PDK transmission failed last March (https://rennlist.com/forums/992-gt3-...ion-error.html). 8 weeks later it was fixed. Now, almost a year to the day the PDK totally crapped out again. New PDK being shipped and replaced soon. Hope that the third transmission is the charm!
BTW, in both cases, the car was literally just sitting at idle. In this second case, I was at a light and decided to switch to Sport mode and the transmission blew up.
As a side note, Porsche Roadside in this case was awful. The guy showed up, his tow truck was not prepared to tow a GT3. The tow truck wouldn't angle low enough and he had nothing to to help. No wood, no ramps, no nothing. We literally used 12x12 stacked garden tiles to get the car onto the bed. The whole process took almost 90 minutes. So, lesson is to always be present when getting your car towed.
Should have gotten a manual....
BTW, in both cases, the car was literally just sitting at idle. In this second case, I was at a light and decided to switch to Sport mode and the transmission blew up.
As a side note, Porsche Roadside in this case was awful. The guy showed up, his tow truck was not prepared to tow a GT3. The tow truck wouldn't angle low enough and he had nothing to to help. No wood, no ramps, no nothing. We literally used 12x12 stacked garden tiles to get the car onto the bed. The whole process took almost 90 minutes. So, lesson is to always be present when getting your car towed.
Should have gotten a manual....
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03-28-2023, 10:34 PM
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So a few hundred miles after buying the car the PDK transmission failed last March (https://rennlist.com/forums/992-gt3-...ion-error.html). 8 weeks later it was fixed. Now, almost a year to the day the PDK totally crapped out again. New PDK being shipped and replaced soon. Hope that the third transmission is the charm!
BTW, in both cases, the car was literally just sitting at idle. In this second case, I was at a light and decided to switch to Sport mode and the transmission blew up.
As a side note, Porsche Roadside in this case was awful. The guy showed up, his tow truck was not prepared to tow a GT3. The tow truck wouldn't angle low enough and he had nothing to to help. No wood, no ramps, no nothing. We literally used 12x12 stacked garden tiles to get the car onto the bed. The whole process took almost 90 minutes. So, lesson is to always be present when getting your car towed.
Should have gotten a manual....
BTW, in both cases, the car was literally just sitting at idle. In this second case, I was at a light and decided to switch to Sport mode and the transmission blew up.
As a side note, Porsche Roadside in this case was awful. The guy showed up, his tow truck was not prepared to tow a GT3. The tow truck wouldn't angle low enough and he had nothing to to help. No wood, no ramps, no nothing. We literally used 12x12 stacked garden tiles to get the car onto the bed. The whole process took almost 90 minutes. So, lesson is to always be present when getting your car towed.
Should have gotten a manual....
And what kind of flatbed driver has no wood blocks or anything - you always gotta have that stuff…
03-28-2023, 10:45 PM
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Sorry, sounds like a real pain in the a-s.
That's the classic reason why i say don't count on porsche roadside.
Your not going to get someone that knows anything about the car.
They are used to towing pickup trucks.
In this case you had no choice .
In the case of a flat tire i carry every thing to remove and repair.
Many say "just call Porsche, great in theory not so much in reality.
Hope you get it sorted out quickly ..good luck
That's the classic reason why i say don't count on porsche roadside.
Your not going to get someone that knows anything about the car.
They are used to towing pickup trucks.
In this case you had no choice .
In the case of a flat tire i carry every thing to remove and repair.
Many say "just call Porsche, great in theory not so much in reality.
Hope you get it sorted out quickly ..good luck
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03-29-2023, 01:07 AM
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Another reason why I still have AAA.
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03-29-2023, 04:53 AM
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Which tranny you had has nothing to do with. I have a friend who had a manual and it had to be repaired. I’ve had 3 PDKs and not a single issue. I’ve had 4 manual Porsches. And while they fun to drive, my 2 manual GT3s had one weakness. No torque down low. While you’re on the track
and you decide on the wrong gear and you’re in the wrong spot on the rpm scale your toast. That was the only weakness in my 996.2 and 997.1 GT3. I’m trying to improve my driving and I’m focusing on my braking points
where I’m supposed to be on the track etc etc and I miss the gear change or don’t manage the throttle I’m toast. The PDK solves that weakness. The whole point of having a car like the GT3 is to go fast and to go faster. So why buy the slower version? Todays race cars don’t have manuals. Now if I buy a 993 turbo I’m not buying a tiptronic. (Gosh I miss my 993)
I sorta understand the manual thing but not in this car. Because I’ve made that mistake on the track and watched a m3 leave me behind. Like I said this is a track car meant to go faster.
the PDK is just outstanding.
‘Having said all that drivel I hope you get it fixed and don’t have ANYMORE problems! But I love my PDK. The modern manuals are almost automatic anyway with no lift shift and auto rev matching etc.
‘The c8 corvette copied our PDK because it’s the best dual clutch on the market.
I would sure like to have my 993 TT back tho
and you decide on the wrong gear and you’re in the wrong spot on the rpm scale your toast. That was the only weakness in my 996.2 and 997.1 GT3. I’m trying to improve my driving and I’m focusing on my braking points
where I’m supposed to be on the track etc etc and I miss the gear change or don’t manage the throttle I’m toast. The PDK solves that weakness. The whole point of having a car like the GT3 is to go fast and to go faster. So why buy the slower version? Todays race cars don’t have manuals. Now if I buy a 993 turbo I’m not buying a tiptronic. (Gosh I miss my 993)
I sorta understand the manual thing but not in this car. Because I’ve made that mistake on the track and watched a m3 leave me behind. Like I said this is a track car meant to go faster.
the PDK is just outstanding.
‘Having said all that drivel I hope you get it fixed and don’t have ANYMORE problems! But I love my PDK. The modern manuals are almost automatic anyway with no lift shift and auto rev matching etc.
‘The c8 corvette copied our PDK because it’s the best dual clutch on the market.
I would sure like to have my 993 TT back tho
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03-29-2023, 11:02 AM
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It is true that the PDK in infinitely more complicated, and more things can go wrong. There is a long thread somewhere - sorry I don't have a link, that goes into great detail on how the PDK works, all the parts and their function, and the parts that tend to fail - and how easy it is to fix without swapping transmission. My takeaway is that there are so many sensors and hydraulic solenoids that it's a miracle (of engineering) there are not more issues. Seems to be a case of probability of failure due to complexity vs. superior engineering approach to gear changing (PDK vs. manual).
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03-29-2023, 06:57 PM
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The PDK in my 11 GTS failed at 200 miles. I traded the car at 20,000 miles with zero issues.
04-05-2023, 03:31 PM
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Hi @smellycat I started a thread in the 992 section discussing things including your issues and things that may be related to your issues, I'm not sure if my car has some of the exact same issues but I feel as though I may have the same jerking/delay you mentioned to another user in your last thread
Your 992 having/had any of a laundry list of issues? Chime in here... - Rennlist - Porsche Discussion Forums
Your 992 having/had any of a laundry list of issues? Chime in here... - Rennlist - Porsche Discussion Forums
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04-07-2023, 06:28 PM
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Sorry, that sucks. I just got a note that they got a new PDK from Atlanta (I am in DC) and now the car should be ready in the next week or 10 days. Ill ask the dealer when I pickup to see what others are experiencing.
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04-07-2023, 07:02 PM
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Is the temperature relevant? Mine only jerks from cold in winter with an occasional attempt at a kangaroo hop! Been doing that a year. Maybe more viscous oil exacerbates any control valve dysfunction
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04-07-2023, 07:45 PM
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Anecdotally, I think for me the temperature is relevant as well - but it doesn't get to freezing temperatures or anything here so I'm not sure ... it does happen sometimes when its been cold the night before and I take it out in the morning. It gets extremely hot sometimes in summer (Arizona), I can't remember atm if I have kangarooing more or less then but I'll have to pay close attention as it starts to get hotter.
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06-14-2023, 05:09 PM
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How much would this have cost if not under warranty??
this confirms more why I’d order a manual.
I’d almost have turned him away if he wasn’t prepared to load the car properly.
i wouldn’t let him unload it without being there either if I did let him go with it.
thx for the post
this confirms more why I’d order a manual.
I’d almost have turned him away if he wasn’t prepared to load the car properly.
i wouldn’t let him unload it without being there either if I did let him go with it.
thx for the post
So a few hundred miles after buying the car the PDK transmission failed last March (https://rennlist.com/forums/992-gt3-...ion-error.html). 8 weeks later it was fixed. Now, almost a year to the day the PDK totally crapped out again. New PDK being shipped and replaced soon. Hope that the third transmission is the charm!
BTW, in both cases, the car was literally just sitting at idle. In this second case, I was at a light and decided to switch to Sport mode and the transmission blew up.
As a side note, Porsche Roadside in this case was awful. The guy showed up, his tow truck was not prepared to tow a GT3. The tow truck wouldn't angle low enough and he had nothing to to help. No wood, no ramps, no nothing. We literally used 12x12 stacked garden tiles to get the car onto the bed. The whole process took almost 90 minutes. So, lesson is to always be present when getting your car towed.
Should have gotten a manual....
BTW, in both cases, the car was literally just sitting at idle. In this second case, I was at a light and decided to switch to Sport mode and the transmission blew up.
As a side note, Porsche Roadside in this case was awful. The guy showed up, his tow truck was not prepared to tow a GT3. The tow truck wouldn't angle low enough and he had nothing to to help. No wood, no ramps, no nothing. We literally used 12x12 stacked garden tiles to get the car onto the bed. The whole process took almost 90 minutes. So, lesson is to always be present when getting your car towed.
Should have gotten a manual....
Last edited by mxracer78; 06-14-2023 at 05:10 PM.
06-14-2023, 05:31 PM
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