AlexCeres

I don’t see any business reason why the TTS and gt2rs wouldn’t go first. The gt3 don’t sell in enough volume to be literally forced over to hybrid if the SUVs and other lines go full EV or hybrid. And if the gt2rs goes first, then a hybrid gt3 just doesn’t fit in the schedule for 992 gen. Porsche is very rigid in its product roll out time lines.

This whole thread is hyperventilating. Go drive up prices on ancient cars and experience the joys of after market extended warranties or whatever.

And I’d absolutely buy a hybrid TTS, gt2rs, or both. “Baby 918” ? Hell yeah.

I own an Artura and it is positively fantastic. It’s significantly better than a 992 TTS. I’m eagerly looking forward to Porsche’s response. It’s going to be a wild car decade.

AlexCeres

TL;DR all the regulatory requirements are pushed out to 2035 which is way way after 992.2 gt3s will be sold.

mass27

And this is the summation of RL.

fxz

ppl that havent really owned a 3 long time , dont understand that is an unbeatable joy machine on track and mountain pass,
but instant plugin hybrid torque is the way to go, to drive the GT3 in almost straight lines with today traffic with fat cows on ebikes and granmas on SUV , you need a 0 to 100 tool from a radar to another ,

this hybrid thing will make the GT3 more "democratic" and probably more produced, but if you re lucky (and rich) enough NOTHING is like a manual NO hybrid GT3 for special days along a kind of electric only 718/artura (or a 4/SRS compromise until them) for normal days fun

GrantG

kyrocks

oops wrong thread. lol

usctrojanGT3

Guess I'm turning into one of those "get off my lawn" guys but I just don't have any interest in a hybrid just like I had zero interest in the 918 (although I would have bought it for the allocations if I had the money back then). I'll be out on GT cars and keep what I own once Porsche goes electric, hybrid, and/or turbo with their GT cars so at least my allocation will be freed up.

786

Ya, I’m also out if it goes hybrid. Zero interest.

500hp pushing 3000lbs is perfect, just refine the package with more lightening aero etc than current. Plenty of other variants for the magazine racers.

BE-EB-992

I think the 992.2 GT3 will get W16 from the Chiron.

C.J. Ichiban

guys please do not take what I said out of context. Mules are mystery meat.

factories test multiple drivetrains. they have multiple mules. on un camo'd cars, they probably hide more mechanical stuff than you realize. they have to test everything. there is trickle down from Turbo S into GTS for PDCC or PTV so maybe a hybrid sticker is indicating they are testing / abusing it using the GT3 suspension and dynamic capability to make sure it's safe in a Turbo S or a base 911. Push beyond, dial back. makes some sense but that's just engineering logic I'd employee.

they don't just draw on a chalkboard and skip to production. FSW told me on a tour in 2017 that they put 4M KM on a new 911 before it launches. This is of course jin aggregate. But it was something like 20 teams around the world. Arctic Circle, clutch testing in San Francisco. All over the world. Nonstop.

do you know what a development mule is?

if they have an extra chassis from an outgoing aka old body car- they can :repurpose: it for different drivelines. hide in plain sight. in 2009 they were using a 997.1 RS in green to test the PDK of the 991 GT3. Saw it. Heard it. On their test track. I was there in Weissach with @MJSpeed - they also had a disassembled PDK labeled "GT2RS 30k KM". They were testing that YEARS ahead. We got side eyed when we asked about it- they ended up with the 997.2 GT2RS in a manual years later but this was perhaps testing for 991.

Today- with all the cars being widebody now so they could REUSE a 50k KM Gt3 body to test whatever they want inside. we literally have no idea what they are doing under the skin.

porsche is massively strategic but also financially astute and if they have 10/20/30 test mule 992's they could be in various body configs. it obfuscates the testing being done.

until they're building validation prototypes (on assembly line. all black and almost ready for production) it could be NVH testing, gearbox. suspension, infotainment, hot / cold weather etc.

They have not announced the 992.2 roadmap internally for dealers but generally we are 2-5 years ahead of official public announcements. Unofficially they can of course test variations up to a deadline. Sometimes those get spotted.

Tombstone4478

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911rox

I doubt the 992.2 GT3 will be hybrid despite what they may be testing because it will upstage the 992 GT3 RS. I think the logical approach would be to introduce it in the 2RS first, then the 3RS and then filter down to the subsequent GT3... Just my 2 cents...

PTS

I get the pushback as I love the current recipe but Porsche has a way with this type of magic, and I do not see these aging well.

i.e. they get the first hybridized GT3 to ~550hp (still not too much) but also ~400-450 ft/lbs up from ~350 with instant torque fill, still an NA engine that revs to 9k and still feels NA and only gains 40-70 lbs in the process. I bet it's a winner

flsupraguy

I would say early the same but Ferrari did a phenomenal job with the 296 (hybrid).

GrantG

Ferrari may have done a great job with that car, but it’s a very different car from a GT3 (especially if one requires a manual gearbox).