Originally Posted by flsupraguy

Do you think the 620r is faster than the 720s in a straight line? Last time I drove a 720s I hit nearly 175 on the back straight of Sebring. Stupid fast!

Originally Posted by flsupraguy

Weird how the 765lt was slower than the 720s at Hockenheim and also the 620r was slower than the 600lt. https://youtu.be/51EcY4vAPtw?si=oDYeGO8hF7KkshEo

Originally Posted by 06viper

In a straight line? 620r will start to slow down after 100mph because of the amount of downforce, so it will be slightly slower. Not much though! Now in a corner compared to a 720? The 620r takes the victory. That's why it is able to put down some serious lap times! If someone is purchasing a 620r as a 1/2 or 1 mile drag racing car, they are buying the wrong vehicle. If they are buying it as a track weapon, as of this moment in time, it's one of the best street legal track cars money can buy! It would dominate my GT3 around a track. Only other street legal "track" cars I can think of that are in the running (and more $$ as well) are 765LT, 992 GT3RS, Senna, and maybe a Viper ACR.

Originally Posted by GT4Lover

I'm not sure that a 620R really is better than the 720s in the corners. If it is, it would just be because of the downforce in high speed sections. Otherwise, I think low-mid speed corners the 720s may be king. 720s has a much better tire (620R is under tired at 225F and 285R) and much better suspension than the 620R. If you get the optional 3-way coilovers (pretty rare option) for the 620R that fact is negated simply because that suspension is better than the 720s offering and would probably make up for the lack of tire on the 620R. 620R needs at least a 245 up front and a 305 rear, which is the GT4 tire sizing. No idea why Mclaren thought it was a good idea to put such skinny tires on the 620R when it has more than enough weight, downforce, and power to take advantage of a larger tire. My guess is so that both the 600LT and 620R didn't get too close to 720s laptimes. Anyway. get the 620R on some slicks in the right sizes and you're faster than a 720 and 765 around most tracks. Get it on a coilover and a slick and you could probably get within a second or so of GT4 lap times.

Originally Posted by 06viper

Luckily the 620 wheels fit 245 for the front and 305 for the rear 👍🏻 I did it on my track pack 570 I had years ago. It’s actually a pretty popular thing to do for people that track the 570/600/620r series cars. Also the rear wing has 3 different settings for the downforce, so depending on what you want for the track you are at. Suspension wise, out of all 40 of the cars that were delivered to the USA, none were delivered with the 3 way coilover suspension (according to what my dealer told me). Don’t know if that’s true, but wouldn’t be surprised since most people want the suspension lift for the front and the manual coilovers don’t offer that.

Originally Posted by flsupraguy

Weird how the 765lt was slower than the 720s at Hockenheim and also the 620r was slower than the 600lt. https://youtu.be/51EcY4vAPtw?si=oDYeGO8hF7KkshEo

Originally Posted by 06viper

First and foremost, I am a track guy. Love tracking my cars. I do it whenever time permits and have been tracking for 12+ years. When it comes to Porsche, I got a decently loaded up 6 speed PTS 992 GT3 ($227k MSRP) that I was able to order new from my local dealer last year and the car turned out amazing. So unfortunately my dealer was only getting a few GT3RS allocations and I was not one of the VIP clients with them, so wasn’t upset when they could not get me an allocation with them. So now the search for a GT3RS allocation from other dealers begins. I called countless dealers, and was rejected by all of them. And this has been going on well over the last 1.5 years now.

Finally as of the last few months, I’ve got some dealers with allocations offering insane ADM on allocations. I know what the fair ADMs are thanks to this forum. And I also know cars are having a pretty hard time selling across the board right now compared to the last 3 years. I don’t mind paying ADM on a GT3RS like 90% of people have had to do, but the ADM quotes that were offered to me were crazy. $175k, $200k, $220k were the most recents. So I said heck with it, I’m not spending $450-500k when it’s all said and done for one of these, and went and sold my Artura, and picked up a 1 owner, 1,170 mile 620r.

For under $300k. You get one heck of a track toy. I really don’t know how these things have stayed under that price point, and I’d suspect these will be major collector cars in the future. Especially since there is only 40 of them that were delivered here in the US (225 for the world). Yes it’s not as fast as my 765LT, and there really isn’t much else that is for under $1 mil. But I’d say it’s very close to 720 fast. And around a track it’s definitely faster than a 720 and one of the best bang for the buck track cars $$ can buy. It’s so engaging and fun it’s almost unbelievable. And with that roof scoop, my goodness. This might be a forever car for me in the collection.

So all in all, I am blown away at how good the 620R is. I did not think there could be a car that you could get for under $300k that is this good. I must say though, I really still want a GT3RS. And if there is a dealer out there willing to give me a legit fair price for an allocation, I am your guy. But for now, the 620R is the shiny new toy in my garage. It’s the perfect track car that super rare and puts down some seriously fast lap times. It might (and I say this lightly) be able to keep up with my 765LT around some tracks if you throw on the slicks that Pirelli makes specifically for the 620r. It would be very close I feel. But even if it can’t, the car is a home run. The cars are bulletproof around the track as well, you can pound lap after lap on them and without issues. OEM brake pads are it’s only weakness for tracking, but luckily there are a decent amount of companies that make better pads that will easily last you many track days for a cheaper price.

Anyone else in here own a 620r??

Originally Posted by ipse dixit

At least with respect to the 765 v. 720 lap times, many of the reviewers noted that the 765 had a higher learning curve than the 720.

So for a relative "new" driver to the car (i.e., journos doing test reviews) their lap times often would not match those of the 720, which was easier to handle at the limit.

Take it for what it's worth.

Originally Posted by GrantG

Robert, the American owner of Apex at the Nürburgring campaigned a 620R for a while. Some good vids on YouTube, in case anyone interested.

https://youtube.com/@RobertMitchell?si=xWuOXrCt7M3crNtV

Originally Posted by GrantG

Robert, the American owner of Apex at the Nürburgring campaigned a 620R for a while. Some good vids on YouTube, in case anyone interested.

https://youtube.com/@RobertMitchell?si=xWuOXrCt7M3crNtV

Originally Posted by 96redLT4

Sometimes my mind goes numb trying to keep track of the numerical Mclaren variants