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Old 01-12-2024, 05:57 PM
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was just browsing news today and came across this. i'll preface with, i don't know the history of the cgt (yet) so go easy lol and am just a reader who owns a my23 tts, desires to add a gt3, and was surprised to read this. this would be a deterrent to me for ownership. i like to drive my cars without a stop recommendation from the manu.

https://autos.yahoo.com/porsche-carr...170900225.html

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Old 01-12-2024, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by abiazis
Seems to be, so I asked the goal of the OP.......Porsches are an investment instrument for some people.......not me......I try to buy wisely and get my money's worth by driving the cars I buyer time.......some people don't......
Didn't you sell your GT3 shortly after buying and move to the turbo in your signature?
Old 01-12-2024, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by michaeldorian
The CGT has a lot of quirks. Having a 992 RS and ST and also requiring more cash I personally would not go CGT.

It’s unlike anything you else but it’s dated in ways too. Doug Demuro just spent a bunch of money just to get it to ride more like a modern car. New suspension, axle lift, electro wing etc.

CGT is the type of car you buy when you have FU money in my humble opinion. Or it’s a life must have check box.

I would want to be in the position where you don’t have to get rid of ST and RS and simply be adding CGT.
I totally agree with this. 3RS and S/T are basically the same car. The S/T is an RS without the aero. The main difference is manual otherwise don't see why you would have both. That said if I had unlimited funds, sure I would like both. CGT is a super car at another level any way you look it at.
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You can’t even drive the CGT, they have stop drives on them, and further more every few years they find another reason to take them off the road.

It is 100% a 5th or 6th car that is now basically a giant paperweight
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Old 01-12-2024, 08:28 PM
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If I may offer a counterpoint…

CGT perfectly fine to drive after inspection. There hasn’t been a single control arm failure in the real world. No issue with insurance- I checked mine.

After speaking with FSW on the topic, my understanding is that the recall was done from an abundance of caution, and may not have happened if it weren’t Porsche’s halo car.

It has always been a good 3rd car for driving when you are in the mood. It’s too demanding to drive otherwise, and not a substitute for any 911, and would recommend keeping at least one 911 to drive regularly.

CGT is basically an evolution of the F50 concept, and still a bargain given the F50 is close to 4mm. Let’s not forget how unique the car is and how unlikely we are to see anything like it ever again.

If values take a hit, I’ll buy another 🙂

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Old 01-12-2024, 09:57 PM
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CGT

911s are 911s at the end of the day. The ST and RS are interesting versions of the same car.
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Old 01-13-2024, 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by FrenchieDadRS
For me, the choice would be obvious.
CGT for the weekend, 991.2 GT3 Touring for everything else.
yes thats's what I do
992 is the truck, from kids to manure and bikes....
it goes everywhere I mean EVERYWHERE.
it even rolled into my neighbors' living room.. that was $$$$$$$$ and embarrassing. don't ask


Originally Posted by ipse dixit
Just based on maintenance costs alone, I would choose an S/T and RS combo.

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yes, for most ppl it's 10k a year on CGT into sinking fund...
well, I have my ways with cars... stuff break.
last maintenance was about msrp of GT3.
again, it's be/c I am just abusive... I tailgate and I don't stop for speed bump or dips....
windshield alone is 10k installed....
but if you want a hooker, you don't ask for $



Originally Posted by abiazis
is the goal investment or driving or both….?

CGT will sit while with the other 2 cars the RS will likely be driven, the ST will probably be less used but still return well in value as will the RS…..even with miles….

if pure investment return is the goal with little driving over next 5 years…CGT
investment is faster in other stuff.
I have 2 CGT when I bought them one was <1000 miles the other 500 miles
I don't save either.
whichever is not blocked, I drive.
life is too short to wait
u may be younger.
I had 4 eye surgery 2 knew surgery 1 thumb surgery... and I am likely fitter than 90% of the ppl here.
so burn the money while you can.


Originally Posted by C.J. Ichiban

without having driven the ST yet but having a lot of miles on my pair of CGT's (now sold) and my R (now sold) and short drives in the 992 RS I'd much rather have the CGT vs any of those 911's.
hahah yes, you know.
and thus ST is POS, pls sell to me
no CXX garbage, just make it pccb and orange.
I promise I cover 15k miles in 12 month.
the last orange u got me cleared 26k miles today.
3rd windshield.



Originally Posted by mass27
Like others have said, I think that the CGT is an adder, not a substituter.
yes as much as I drive the CGT.. you need a GT3 of sorts
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Old 01-13-2024, 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by yoshi86
Hi, long time lurker posting for first time.

Wondering what your thoughts are on for hypothetically trading a package of 992 GT3rs + S/T + cash (to make up for difference) for 1 CGT? Assuming fair price for all 3 cars.
Obviously this would have to happen at least 1 year after taking delivery in the S/T so would be 2025 business at the earliest, but for those with extensive garages and access to these cars wondering if you have thought about it.
At least here in CT you could slap a classic car plate on the CGT and eliminate property tax, although at cars this level the tax aspect is really not a deal breaker.

This is under the assumption you already have a decent garage on top of the GT3rs & S/t. Let's say something like a Dakar (for winter fun) / manual car of early 2000s (F430 or Murci or FGT etc.) / track dedicated car / comfortable daily (taycan or Cayenne etc.) as well as the GT3rs and S/T.
Happy to hear thoughts.
Sell your soul for a CGT. I have had mine for 17 years and it's now covered 60,000 miles. If you want the most thrilling, engaging and rewarding P car, buy the Carrera GT. No matter how good the GT3RS and ST are, they will never hold a candle to the immersive experience that is the CGT. The engine and drivertain are worth the ticket price alone. It's a car that will take you a long time to fully exploit, and with modern dampers and Cup2 tyres it can still cut it on track, and is a more resolved road car. There has never been such a magnificently over engineered supercar, that rewards like no other. She is the GOAT.


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Old 01-13-2024, 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by mooty
nothing drives like a CGT, nothing before and nothing after.
I love it
but it is a A to point A car. totally useless
I have 15k miles on CGT chassis. I know it well but every time I am out with it, it scares me ****less.
If u like roller coaster rides, this is it.

it's better to have RS and CGT.
Don't agree on the A to A car. I did 9924 miles in mine in 12 months, all over Europe, left it on the street, in multi storey car parks, packed full of luggage for nearly 2 weeks. Not a better car on the planet for thrills. The GOAT.
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Originally Posted by BusDriver
If I may offer a counterpoint…

CGT perfectly fine to drive after inspection. There hasn’t been a single control arm failure in the real world. No issue with insurance- I checked mine.

After speaking with FSW on the topic, my understanding is that the recall was done from an abundance of caution, and may not have happened if it weren’t Porsche’s halo car.

It has always been a good 3rd car for driving when you are in the mood. It’s too demanding to drive otherwise, and not a substitute for any 911, and would recommend keeping at least one 911 to drive regularly.

CGT is basically an evolution of the F50 concept, and still a bargain given the F50 is close to 4mm. Let’s not forget how unique the car is and how unlikely we are to see anything like it ever again.

If values take a hit, I’ll buy another 🙂
There have been two cases of spherical joints in wishbones having cracks. That was on one side (two mounts per wishbone) and no handling abnormalities were noted by the owner. Huge risk if you have an accident (in the miniscule case) it's attributed to the APA3 Stop Drive campaign - which is akin to an Aircraft grounding.
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Originally Posted by C.J. Ichiban
ok so the question is-


without having driven the ST yet but having a lot of miles on my pair of CGT's (now sold) and my R (now sold) and short drives in the 992 RS I'd much rather have the CGT vs any of those 911's.
100%. CGT eclipses every 911 deriviate xxx times over.
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Originally Posted by rodneyr
I totally agree with this. 3RS and S/T are basically the same car. The S/T is an RS without the aero.
That's an interesting take.

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Originally Posted by PTS
That's an interesting take.
Delusional to think otherwise.
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Originally Posted by FrenchieDadRS
Delusional to think otherwise.
ST and RS ARE NOT comparable at all..... regardless of being same platform.
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Originally Posted by FrenchieDadRS
Delusional to think otherwise.
Delusional is calling the S/T and 3RS the same car. No one is cross shopping the 2

I'm going to guess you've not driven both
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