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Old 10-09-2022, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by djlynch
lots of football left
Sure. just saying these two would be my favorites if we want to bet now
Old 10-09-2022, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by djlynch
lots of football left
Great point. It will be interesting to see how Buffalo plays when they actually have their starters and not their practice squad playing.
Old 10-09-2022, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Patton250
Great point. It will be interesting to see how Buffalo plays when they actually have their starters and not their practice squad playing.
ha ha yes. Bengals big game tonight.
Old 10-09-2022, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by LSM111
market is def changing quick. These TTS on used market were bringing way over list now list.

it’s going to keep adjusting as people’s portfolios get hit, goods and services get more expensive and ppl save more for the coming recession.

used prices are way down off their highs.
Cost of a $250,000 car loan went from $14,000 a year ago to $40,000 now. Thats a big spread. I know most here never do this, but there are many out there who do this. And it was those people who really helped elevate the ADM based market (although they werent the only cause for it, they fueled it).

If you think about a year ago we were talking about buying and selling Turbos net-net with no loss or make even money, and now we are most likely at the 10% loss levels (still not 20% where it was precovid) at first year of ownership. Added with the cost of the loan, most now realize the cost of owning a turbo has gone from low double digits to over 6 figures in 3-4 years. Thats a lot, hence you see lots of used cars.

Lastly, Turbo isnt GT3 in terms of collectibility. It never was (except air cooled ones) and never will be. The market for Turbos are people who rack miles and move on to the next fast comfortable thing. In a year, there will be a sub 2 second (first sub 2 second Production porsche, sounds amazing, can you think about the hype?) turbo and the market will be flooded with turbos which will be on top of the current unsold Turbos.

If you can get one for MSRP now, I’d say “maybe” do it but dont go crazy loading it up. For a 992.2 TTS, you will take a $60-75k hit in less than 2 years if you put miles on it. But for over msrp? You have to be really irrational to do it given the current climate.

Remember the last 2 sports car market downturns we always either had low rates or low inflation or stock market that was printing us free money with overvalued stocks. This time, none of those are true. There is nothing to keep the music going. Its like that scene in the movie margin call - “the music is slowing”.
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Old 10-09-2022, 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by chance6
This is coming from a 992 TTS owner, and when the 992 came out I felt that the GTS body width was a little more 'digestible'...the TTS is fantastic to me but occasionally feels a bit wide. GTS also doesn't suck gas like the TTS does. I still think the Python Green 992 GTS coupe is one of the best looking, IMO.
I got 31mpg in my ‘22 GTS PDK (normal mode) coupe driving straight from Columbus to Indianapolis, no stops, wife and two toddlers. Ride back, 30mpg, but we had to stop once.
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Originally Posted by shrimp money
I got 31mpg in my ‘22 GTS PDK (normal mode) coupe driving straight from Columbus to Indianapolis, no stops, wife and two toddlers. Ride back, 30mpg, but we had to stop once.
Thats amazing. Want to know how my family SUV (ahem Cayenne GTS ahem) gets in highway? An abysmal 20.5 if I keep it below 75. Go above it, you dont see 20.

In 7,000 miles my average MPG is 16.4. Thats horrible! I get 27 mpg in a 800 hp ZR1 and I have averaged 14.9 mpg in my GT3RS in 11,000 miles.

I hate SUVs. Marriage makes me own it. I resisted to owning one for as long as I could. Big fat ugly.

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i'm shopping new turbo S which seem to be 40 over, can anyone confirm? Many listed higher, but my sense is the markets have rolled over -
Old 10-10-2022, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Sun Ra
i'm shopping new turbo S which seem to be 40 over, can anyone confirm? Many listed higher, but my sense is the markets have rolled over -
I’m $30k over on a to be built TTS
Old 10-10-2022, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Sun Ra
i'm shopping new turbo S which seem to be 40 over, can anyone confirm? Many listed higher, but my sense is the markets have rolled over -
market is softer but not significantly
what is keeping floor on TTS and other Porsche models is limited production
but another factor that people forget is as new car prices get softer , used car prices are getting softer so you will be getting less money on trade in
I think the play at this time is
get a good number on trade if you have it , and try to negotiate a lower ADM. The ADM will be the difference that your trade will fetch in few months

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Old 10-10-2022, 01:37 PM
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I also see msrp continuing to rise every year. I’m not sure it’ll be as drastic as 10k per year.. but I’d say the 992.2 turbo s is going to start above 225 for sure
Old 10-10-2022, 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by shrimp money
I got 31mpg in my ‘22 GTS PDK (normal mode) coupe driving straight from Columbus to Indianapolis, no stops, wife and two toddlers. Ride back, 30mpg, but we had to stop once.
That's the flatlands right there...but that's typical GTS- I had a 991.1 GTS (that had the true mechanical changes to a NA engine to gain +30 hp) and the car got about 28 mpg...good car!

if there's any car that needs the extended range fuel tank, it's the 992 TTS.
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Originally Posted by pitt911
market is softer but not significantly
what is keeping floor on TTS and other Porsche models is limited production
but another factor that people forget is as new car prices get softer , used car prices are getting softer so you will be getting less money on trade in
I think the play at this time is
get a good number on trade if you have it , and try to negotiate a lower ADM. The ADM will be the difference that your trade will fetch in few months
sometimes the best thing to do is to not do anything
Old 10-11-2022, 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by chance6
That's the flatlands right there...but that's typical GTS- I had a 991.1 GTS (that had the true mechanical changes to a NA engine to gain +30 hp) and the car got about 28 mpg...good car!

if there's any car that needs the extended range fuel tank, it's the 992 TTS.
When I picked up my TTS I had to fly to the city and get it and then drive 1200 miles home. It worked out perfect because I used that drive as the break in. So by the time I got home I was ready to rock ‘n’ roll with it. I don’t think I brought the car over 3500 RPM that first 1200 miles. Anyway since I was babying it it got between 28 and 30 miles per gallon. That car is very efficient if you drive it like an old man.
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Originally Posted by Patton250
When I picked up my TTS I had to fly to the city and get it and then drive 1200 miles home. It worked out perfect because I used that drive as the break in. So by the time I got home I was ready to rock ‘n’ roll with it. I don’t think I brought the car over 3500 RPM that first 1200 miles. Anyway since I was babying it it got between 28 and 30 miles per gallon. That car is very efficient if you drive it like an old man.
I picked up a 2017 turbo s for a customer that purchased it from an 82 year old, the life time fuel mileage was 27.9, that's when you know you are too old for that much power
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Originally Posted by eclou
Tourings are still strong? I don't even understand what question the touring is supposed to answer. I'd much rather have a GTS 7 speed than a Touring - IMHO the GTS is the most aesthetically pleasing of the 992 iterations / best all around driver as well
tourings are still strong touring the various cars and coffee

(dont crucify me ive never been )
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