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Old 06-22-2020, 11:26 AM
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I test drove a 992 C4S this past Friday, and I was roundly impressed by, well...everything. Gorgeous interior, sublime steering, and all the get-up-and-go I could ever need on public roads. On top of it all: The car sounds amazing. I started out a skeptic, but I'm now fully sold on the 992 generation.

So now, I'm facing a decision: Order a 992.1 now, or wait ~3 years for the 992.2 and enjoy the improvements that Porsche will inevitably make to this 911 generation. I've seen multiple comments in other threads from Rennlisters saying they never by the first run of any car, and I can understand why: Improvements made from the 991.1 to the 991.2 were well-done. That said: As I looked around the 992.1 I couldn't think of much it was lacking that I would want done differently, perhaps with the exception of the bacon-strip brake light (would prefer a long horizontal light), and the gear shift nubbin, but that is about it.

Still, I know Porsche will make this car better on the .2 round, and if I buy now, I have little doubt I'll be interested in what they have to offer in the update.

The thing that would be a no-brainer for me would be if Porsche decided to integrate a GPF into the North American models of the 992.2. I'd pull the trigger on a 992.1 in a heartbeat of Porsche did that.

For those of you who have owned many Porsches: How do you feel about purchasing the first run? Would you encourage me to go for it now, or be patient and wait for Porsche's update in a few years time (I guess 2024 at the earliest)?

Also, if anyone else has found themselves at a similar decision point, I would appreciate hearing how you have processed this decision.

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06-22-2020, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Marantz2270
I test drove a 992 C4S this past Friday, and I was roundly impressed by, well...everything. Gorgeous interior, sublime steering, and all the get-up-and-go I could ever need on public roads. On top of it all: The car sounds amazing. I started out a skeptic, but I'm now fully sold on the 992 generation.

So now, I'm facing a decision: Order a 992.1 now, or wait ~3 years for the 992.2 and enjoy the improvements that Porsche will inevitably make to this 911 generation. I've seen multiple comments in other threads from Rennlisters saying they never by the first run of any car, and I can understand why: Improvements made from the 991.1 to the 991.2 were well-done. That said: As I looked around the 992.1 I couldn't think of much it was lacking that I would want done differently, perhaps with the exception of the bacon-strip brake light (would prefer a long horizontal light), and the gear shift nubbin, but that is about it.

Still, I know Porsche will make this car better on the .2 round, and if I buy now, I have little doubt I'll be interested in what they have to offer in the update.

The thing that would be a no-brainer for me would be if Porsche decided to integrate a GPF into the North American models of the 992.2. I'd pull the trigger on a 992.1 in a heartbeat of Porsche did that.

For those of you who have owned many Porsches: How do you feel about purchasing the first run? Would you encourage me to go for it now, or be patient and wait for Porsche's update in a few years time (I guess 2024 at the earliest)?

Also, if anyone else has found themselves at a similar decision point, I would appreciate hearing how you have processed this decision.
992.1 is fine. No reason to avoid it. Nothing so far like IMS or some other dealbreaker problem.

The logic for waiting is neverending - if you are waiting for the 992.2, then you might as well wait for the next gen (994?). The refresh .2 usually doesn't last very long before the full gen change. Also, I'd be surprised if the 992.2 didn't have OPF/GPF on the exhaust.

Live your life. Who knows where you're going to be in 2024.
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Originally Posted by Marantz2270
I test drove a 992 C4S this past Friday, and I was roundly impressed by, well...everything. Gorgeous interior, sublime steering, and all the get-up-and-go I could ever need on public roads. On top of it all: The car sounds amazing. I started out a skeptic, but I'm now fully sold on the 992 generation.

So now, I'm facing a decision: Order a 992.1 now, or wait ~3 years for the 992.2 and enjoy the improvements that Porsche will inevitably make to this 911 generation. I've seen multiple comments in other threads from Rennlisters saying they never by the first run of any car, and I can understand why: Improvements made from the 991.1 to the 991.2 were well-done. That said: As I looked around the 992.1 I couldn't think of much it was lacking that I would want done differently, perhaps with the exception of the bacon-strip brake light (would prefer a long horizontal light), and the gear shift nubbin, but that is about it.

Still, I know Porsche will make this car better on the .2 round, and if I buy now, I have little doubt I'll be interested in what they have to offer in the update.

The thing that would be a no-brainer for me would be if Porsche decided to integrate a GPF into the North American models of the 992.2. I'd pull the trigger on a 992.1 in a heartbeat of Porsche did that.

For those of you who have owned many Porsches: How do you feel about purchasing the first run? Would you encourage me to go for it now, or be patient and wait for Porsche's update in a few years time (I guess 2024 at the earliest)?

Also, if anyone else has found themselves at a similar decision point, I would appreciate hearing how you have processed this decision.
992.1 is fine. No reason to avoid it. Nothing so far like IMS or some other dealbreaker problem.

The logic for waiting is neverending - if you are waiting for the 992.2, then you might as well wait for the next gen (994?). The refresh .2 usually doesn't last very long before the full gen change. Also, I'd be surprised if the 992.2 didn't have OPF/GPF on the exhaust.

Live your life. Who knows where you're going to be in 2024.
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Old 06-22-2020, 11:48 AM
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^This +1000
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you wait for a 992.2 then you are going to want the next gen.. then you're going to want the .2 of the next gen.. and then the next gen
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991.1 went from NA to turbo in 991.2. If you wait for 992.2 the car might change in ways you don’t consider an improvement.
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Future is not guaranteed. Live at the moment!!
Go and grab yourself 992. Don't think. Just do it
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992.1 is so good. I bought it twice =P
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Originally Posted by Marantz2270
That said: As I looked around the 992.1 I couldn't think of much it was lacking that I would want done differently, perhaps with the exception of the bacon-strip brake light (would prefer a long horizontal light), and the gear shift nubbin, but that is about it.

The thing that would be a no-brainer for me would be if Porsche decided to integrate a GPF into the North American models of the 992.2. I'd pull the trigger on a 992.1 in a heartbeat of Porsche did that
All joking aside. I have no doubt there will be options on the rear engine cover in the near future. The Turbo S & Aerokit version of the 992 have the cover w/o having the integrated 3rd brake light that can snap in place. Just waiting for the part to become available to order.

In the meantime, you can tint the 3rd brake light.




The nubbin is a non-starter for me. It's superior in function & aesthetics IMO compared to the old style gear lever. The paddles are all you need, I never used the "manual" shift on the 991 lever. It also hindered easy access to the controls behind it. One thing is for sure, the interior has been cleaned up on the 992 and simplified. Almost to a fault.

Also, there is a aluminum/leather substitute option that looks pretty good if you can't stand the shaver look.





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Originally Posted by rk-d
992.1 is fine. No reason to avoid it. Nothing so far like IMS or some other dealbreaker problem.

The logic for waiting is neverending - if you are waiting for the 992.2, then you might as well wait for the next gen (994?). The refresh .2 usually doesn't last very long before the full gen change. Also, I'd be surprised if the 992.2 didn't have OPF/GPF on the exhaust.

Live your life. Who knows where you're going to be in 2024.
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^This +1000
Originally Posted by doug992
you wait for a 992.2 then you are going to want the next gen.. then you're going to want the .2 of the next gen.. and then the next gen
Originally Posted by uniqueMR
Future is not guaranteed. Live at the moment!!
Go and grab yourself 992. Don't think. Just do it
Agree with all of this and I'll add one more plus to doing it now... The bodystyle/cycle on most 911's is 7-8 years now... if you wait 2-3 more years, you'll have a car that's dated by the "new" 994 with in 2-3 years of taking delivery... if you buy now, you'll have a "current design" car for 6-7 years... While for some this doesn't matter, for others (like me) it totally does.
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I'm always a fan of the second generation of a new model line. I feel like Porsche takes into account what people didn't like about the .1 and puts it in the .2; you then end up with a car that Porsche "should have originally released."

A big example of this is 991.1 vs 991.2 GT3; people were mad that there was no manual, what did Porsche do? Add a manual to the .2. The move basically destroyed all 911R prices, but Porsche was all about the enthusiasts and not the flippers. Personally, given past evidence, if you are annoyed by something in the 992.1....chances are it'll be fixed in the 992.2.
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Originally Posted by Sunny_M3
I'm always a fan of the second generation of a new model line. I feel like Porsche takes into account what people didn't like about the .1 and puts it in the .2; you then end up with a car that Porsche "should have originally released."

A big example of this is 991.1 vs 991.2 GT3; people were mad that there was no manual, what did Porsche do? Add a manual to the .2. The move basically destroyed all 911R prices, but Porsche was all about the enthusiasts and not the flippers. Personally, given past evidence, if you are annoyed by something in the 992.1....chances are it'll be fixed in the 992.2.
yeah but if you think about it, the 991.1 was a 3.8L Naturally aspirated engine, and the .2 was a 3.0 Turbo.. that might be (and was) a dealbreaker for some... for all we know, the 992.2 might just be a hybrid which is the direction the Germans are going anyway due to their EU Emissions standards... which could make the 992.1 the last pure gas 911.. This might be an extreme example, but the truth is, we won't know if the 992.2 will be an improvement from a pure sports car standpoint, or more of a marketing / environmental improvement.
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Originally Posted by Sunny_M3
I'm always a fan of the second generation of a new model line. I feel like Porsche takes into account what people didn't like about the .1 and puts it in the .2; you then end up with a car that Porsche "should have originally released."

A big example of this is 991.1 vs 991.2 GT3; people were mad that there was no manual, what did Porsche do? Add a manual to the .2. The move basically destroyed all 911R prices, but Porsche was all about the enthusiasts and not the flippers. Personally, given past evidence, if you are annoyed by something in the 992.1....chances are it'll be fixed in the 992.2.
or they give you thinks standard like Comfort Access that doesn't work properly .. or add GPS to the front end lift that might end up frustrating more people when the GPS isn't working right
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or add GPS to the front end lift that might end up frustrating more people when the GPS isn't working right
if the consistency and accuracy of the GPS for Front Lift is the same as Garage Entry... I would lose my mind with that feature. Mine gets it right about 25% of the time.
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Originally Posted by 992Sam
if the consistency and accuracy of the GPS for Front Lift is the same as Garage Entry... I would lose my mind with that feature. Mine gets it right about 25% of the time.
mine works 100% but i've seen posts from you and many others that its inconsistent but its one of the upgrades for 2021 that might not make the car any better
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