Purchase Advice 992 vs 991
#16
Instructor
The 992S didn't do it for me. Traded it in on a 2018 991.2S. Although I miss the speed and nuanced braking of the 992, there were other reasons (PCM, materials, rattles, body size, ...) that made me switch back a generation. Could not be happier. Try both in the environment you intend to use it.
#17
The 992S didn't do it for me. Traded it in on a 2018 991.2S. Although I miss the speed and nuanced braking of the 992, there were other reasons (PCM, materials, rattles, body size, ...) that made me switch back a generation. Could not be happier. Try both in the environment you intend to use it.
#18
#19
Thanks all for your input. I absolutely agree that the car I buy is the one that speaks to me the most. The problem I am having right now is that Covid makes the process a lot harder. Arranging test drives is definitely harder and more complicated. As my SA told me, in the old days they would jump into the car with even a tire kicker as even on the remote chance they would buy the car it was worth it. Now days not so much. I also respect new cars and so when I take a test drive on a car with 15 miles I am not going to rev above 4K and furthermore most cars only come alive after 10K miles. And so I come online seeking others opinions and although no one can tell me what to do, hearing ones journey does help to organize my thoughts.
In general the older the car, the closer one gets to the ideals of a Porsche Sports car but along with that comes old technology, older insides and increased repair costs, not to mention rattles and just a car showing its age. The newer the car, the newer the insides, the better the warranty and often the better the technology but yes you are dealing with a more bloated tourer than a pure sports car.
A CPO can help make an older car a safer bet, not that I think Porsche dealers will provide me with a perfect car but rather it gives me two years to find the issues and have them repaired under warranty.
Thanks
In general the older the car, the closer one gets to the ideals of a Porsche Sports car but along with that comes old technology, older insides and increased repair costs, not to mention rattles and just a car showing its age. The newer the car, the newer the insides, the better the warranty and often the better the technology but yes you are dealing with a more bloated tourer than a pure sports car.
A CPO can help make an older car a safer bet, not that I think Porsche dealers will provide me with a perfect car but rather it gives me two years to find the issues and have them repaired under warranty.
Thanks
#20
Looking at a 991. Somewhat price sensitive
Options for me are
1. 2017 - 2018 CPO C2 with Sports Chrono and PSE. Expect to pay around 84K. Like that it is the cheapest options of my choices
2. 2017 -2018 CPO C2S with sportt Chrono and PSE. Expect to pay mid 90's.
3. 2020/2021 New C2 with sport Chrono and PSE with a 4-5% discount expect to pay Around 105
Like that the 2020 is new and will have a full 4 year warranty and will have the same power as the 991.2 C2S but between 1 and 3 is 20K difference. Is it worth it?
Options for me are
1. 2017 - 2018 CPO C2 with Sports Chrono and PSE. Expect to pay around 84K. Like that it is the cheapest options of my choices
2. 2017 -2018 CPO C2S with sportt Chrono and PSE. Expect to pay mid 90's.
3. 2020/2021 New C2 with sport Chrono and PSE with a 4-5% discount expect to pay Around 105
Like that the 2020 is new and will have a full 4 year warranty and will have the same power as the 991.2 C2S but between 1 and 3 is 20K difference. Is it worth it?
Get the 992.
#21
Thanks all for your input. I absolutely agree that the car I buy is the one that speaks to me the most. The problem I am having right now is that Covid makes the process a lot harder. Arranging test drives is definitely harder and more complicated. As my SA told me, in the old days they would jump into the car with even a tire kicker as even on the remote chance they would buy the car it was worth it. Now days not so much. I also respect new cars and so when I take a test drive on a car with 15 miles I am not going to rev above 4K and furthermore most cars only come alive after 10K miles. And so I come online seeking others opinions and although no one can tell me what to do, hearing ones journey does help to organize my thoughts.
In general the older the car, the closer one gets to the ideals of a Porsche Sports car but along with that comes old technology, older insides and increased repair costs, not to mention rattles and just a car showing its age. The newer the car, the newer the insides, the better the warranty and often the better the technology but yes you are dealing with a more bloated tourer than a pure sports car.
A CPO can help make an older car a safer bet, not that I think Porsche dealers will provide me with a perfect car but rather it gives me two years to find the issues and have them repaired under warranty.
Thanks
In general the older the car, the closer one gets to the ideals of a Porsche Sports car but along with that comes old technology, older insides and increased repair costs, not to mention rattles and just a car showing its age. The newer the car, the newer the insides, the better the warranty and often the better the technology but yes you are dealing with a more bloated tourer than a pure sports car.
A CPO can help make an older car a safer bet, not that I think Porsche dealers will provide me with a perfect car but rather it gives me two years to find the issues and have them repaired under warranty.
Thanks
The 992 is certainly not a "bloated tourer" compared to the 991. You'll need to go back to the 997 if you want a car that feels meaningfully smaller.
#22
Rennlist Member
This is my opinion -- ironically, I find the newer cars a little closer in spirit to the older cars than the 991. Don't get me wrong -- EXTREMELY different cars to the air-cooled, but the 992 is maybe a small step in the right direction.
The 992 is certainly not a "bloated tourer" compared to the 991. You'll need to go back to the 997 if you want a car that feels meaningfully smaller.
The 992 is certainly not a "bloated tourer" compared to the 991. You'll need to go back to the 997 if you want a car that feels meaningfully smaller.
#23
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This is my opinion -- ironically, I find the newer cars a little closer in spirit to the older cars than the 991. Don't get me wrong -- EXTREMELY different cars to the air-cooled, but the 992 is maybe a small step in the right direction.
The 992 is certainly not a "bloated tourer" compared to the 991. You'll need to go back to the 997 if you want a car that feels meaningfully smaller.
The 992 is certainly not a "bloated tourer" compared to the 991. You'll need to go back to the 997 if you want a car that feels meaningfully smaller.
Though I love to see previous gen owners talk their way out of getting the next; when I’d bet my bottom dollar they’ll end up in a 992 before the gen ends.
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#24
Instructor
I would be happy with 991.1 and i would be happier with 991.2 but i would never choose either if i could do a 992. It seems with 992 porsche set out to clearly differentiate 911 from 718 cars and they have taken it up a few notches in all areas compared to 991.x
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#25
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This is my opinion -- ironically, I find the newer cars a little closer in spirit to the older cars than the 991. Don't get me wrong -- EXTREMELY different cars to the air-cooled, but the 992 is maybe a small step in the right direction.
The 992 is certainly not a "bloated tourer" compared to the 991. You'll need to go back to the 997 if you want a car that feels meaningfully smaller.
The 992 is certainly not a "bloated tourer" compared to the 991. You'll need to go back to the 997 if you want a car that feels meaningfully smaller.
Last edited by gcurnew; 08-15-2020 at 01:03 PM.
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#27
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Thanks all for your input. I absolutely agree that the car I buy is the one that speaks to me the most. The problem I am having right now is that Covid makes the process a lot harder. Arranging test drives is definitely harder and more complicated. As my SA told me, in the old days they would jump into the car with even a tire kicker as even on the remote chance they would buy the car it was worth it. Now days not so much
This is a major purchase... Dealerships must expect a certain amount of required test driving and adapt to the situation. No, you can't tell the nuance between a car with 0 miles and 10K miles but you can certainly tell the difference in a short test drive between a 992 and a 991.
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#28
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Thanks all for your input. I absolutely agree that the car I buy is the one that speaks to me the most. The problem I am having right now is that Covid makes the process a lot harder. Arranging test drives is definitely harder and more complicated. As my SA told me, in the old days they would jump into the car with even a tire kicker as even on the remote chance they would buy the car it was worth it. Now days not so much. I also respect new cars and so when I take a test drive on a car with 15 miles I am not going to rev above 4K and furthermore most cars only come alive after 10K miles. And so I come online seeking others opinions and although no one can tell me what to do, hearing ones journey does help to organize my thoughts.
In general the older the car, the closer one gets to the ideals of a Porsche Sports car but along with that comes old technology, older insides and increased repair costs, not to mention rattles and just a car showing its age. The newer the car, the newer the insides, the better the warranty and often the better the technology but yes you are dealing with a more bloated tourer than a pure sports car.
A CPO can help make an older car a safer bet, not that I think Porsche dealers will provide me with a perfect car but rather it gives me two years to find the issues and have them repaired under warranty.
Thanks
In general the older the car, the closer one gets to the ideals of a Porsche Sports car but along with that comes old technology, older insides and increased repair costs, not to mention rattles and just a car showing its age. The newer the car, the newer the insides, the better the warranty and often the better the technology but yes you are dealing with a more bloated tourer than a pure sports car.
A CPO can help make an older car a safer bet, not that I think Porsche dealers will provide me with a perfect car but rather it gives me two years to find the issues and have them repaired under warranty.
Thanks
Go test drive the damn cars. It should not be difficult, even with Covid.
With my dealer, they will literally drive the car to my front door, and let me have the car for a couple of hours to test drive. (Heck, I even got to "test drive" a Taycan Turbo for a week during Covid doing it this way; it's not difficult at all).
So test drive logistics out of the way, rev out the darn car. You're not going to hurt it. It's a mechanical object, meant to be driven hard. If you want to see the kind of use and abuse these cars go through, try a class at the PEC either in Atlanta or LA.
Stop over thinking whether an older Porsche is a more true sport car (nonsense) or whether a newer one is more bloated (balderdash).
Just go drive both (or all three that you're looking at). Then decide which car you want, then make the best deal you can.
Like I tried to say up above, buy the car, not the deal.
Good luck, and enjoy the hunt.
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#29
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I also have a Cayman and there was a definite similarity between the 991.2 and that. Definitely not with the 992-- you are absolutely right.
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#30
I think you're over thinking it.
Go test drive the damn cars. It should not be difficult, even with Covid.
With my dealer, they will literally drive the car to my front door, and let me have the car for a couple of hours to test drive. (Heck, I even got to "test drive" a Taycan Turbo for a week during Covid doing it this way; it's not difficult at all).
So test drive logistics out of the way, rev out the darn car. You're not going to hurt it. It's a mechanical object, meant to be driven hard. If you want to see the kind of use and abuse these cars go through, try a class at the PEC either in Atlanta or LA.
Go test drive the damn cars. It should not be difficult, even with Covid.
With my dealer, they will literally drive the car to my front door, and let me have the car for a couple of hours to test drive. (Heck, I even got to "test drive" a Taycan Turbo for a week during Covid doing it this way; it's not difficult at all).
So test drive logistics out of the way, rev out the darn car. You're not going to hurt it. It's a mechanical object, meant to be driven hard. If you want to see the kind of use and abuse these cars go through, try a class at the PEC either in Atlanta or LA.