Carrera T vs. S vs. GTS
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If I was buying a 992 today, I would do a stripper spec manual transmission Carrera T and shoot for an MSRP of less $130k (Carrera Exclusive wheels, maybe a metallic color — like that’s it). Keep it simple and keep it light. IMHO. I think that’s the best bang for the buck in the range.
I had originally gone to the dealer to ask about getting on a T waitlist but in July '21 (15 months before the 992 T announcement) the dealer wasn't interested in such things. So they suggested the demand order for an S. If I had gotten an S allocation, I'd have gotten leather interior to be able to get sport-tex seat centers, and then I'd have added other stuff like extended deviated stitching. But with sport-tex standard in the T, I thought I'd keep the options light, esp w/PTS being unavailable.
The GTS is nice (great picture thread!) - any rwd 911 coupe that offers a stick shift interests me - but I turned down a GTS allocation 3 weeks before getting my T allocation because I wanted dark gray or satin platinum wheels plus the sport-tex seat centers, neither of which I could get on a GTS (and I'm not a big fan of race-tex).
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Porsche’s hierarchy across the 992 and 718 range is: GTS > S > T > base. Applies to the Macan too.
In the 718, GTS is arguably the best from my biased perspective being the owner of a Boxster 25.
As a former owner of a 991.2 4s, If I were to order another 911 today, I think I would still pick a lightly-optioned S. Pricing is getting unreal for me for the GTS.
In the 718, GTS is arguably the best from my biased perspective being the owner of a Boxster 25.
As a former owner of a 991.2 4s, If I were to order another 911 today, I think I would still pick a lightly-optioned S. Pricing is getting unreal for me for the GTS.
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Porsche’s hierarchy across the 992 and 718 range is: GTS > S > T > base. Applies to the Macan too.
In the 718, GTS is arguably the best from my biased perspective being the owner of a Boxster 25.
As a former owner of a 991.2 4s, If I were to order another 911 today, I think I would still pick a lightly-optioned S. Pricing is getting unreal for me for the GTS.
In the 718, GTS is arguably the best from my biased perspective being the owner of a Boxster 25.
As a former owner of a 991.2 4s, If I were to order another 911 today, I think I would still pick a lightly-optioned S. Pricing is getting unreal for me for the GTS.
turbo-S > turbo > GTS > S > T > base
And it applies to the entire Porsche offering (911, Cayman, Boxter, Panamera, Macan, Cayenne and Taycan). Then there’s the “GT” and special models side lineups.
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Haha. Yes of course. The base is well base I suppose and a bottom feeder. At the minimum, one would want an S or GTS from this list just to avoid embarrassment and the pitying looks from the staff at the dealer. Just a joke guys.
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I know…..I bet they won’t even service a T or a base….😂
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991.2 had different turbos.
991.1 GTS came with the X51 "Power Kit" that you could also install on a Carrera S if you had deep pockets.
https://www.suncoastparts.com/product/SKU991X51.html
The lack of differentiation in the engine bay is why some hardcore enthusiasts, YouTubers, and reviewers have opined that the 992 GTS is something of a lesser GTS when compared to prior generations. If the rumors are true, Porsche is righting this situation by taking some big steps with 992.2 GTS to better differentiate it from the rest of the Carrera trims.
991.1 GTS came with the X51 "Power Kit" that you could also install on a Carrera S if you had deep pockets.
https://www.suncoastparts.com/product/SKU991X51.html
The lack of differentiation in the engine bay is why some hardcore enthusiasts, YouTubers, and reviewers have opined that the 992 GTS is something of a lesser GTS when compared to prior generations. If the rumors are true, Porsche is righting this situation by taking some big steps with 992.2 GTS to better differentiate it from the rest of the Carrera trims.
The fact that Base, T, S, and GTS are essentially mechanically the same engine is totally unacceptable and ridiculous. I’m sure they made a ton more money that way due to synergies. Just a different tune, different decal and you can charge premium. It’s disgusting honestly.
Hence, T for sure seems to be the best bang for the buck, or Base for that matter if you wanted PDK.
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Thank you all. Good discussion.
I think based on all I’ve read, if you’re ordering new, T is the only sensible option, if used, S is best bang for the buck. The fact that GTS/S/T/Base all have the same engine is absolutely ridiculous. You can always swap brakes or suspension. One reason 997 GTS was so popular, was the fact that its engine was unique, or center lock wheels.
I find Porsche main line of cars seems to be a marketing practice, and that’s quite a shame.
I’ll see what kind of T I can find or would wait for next gen. I simply can’t stand the small brakes on the T, would have quickly swapped them out if I got one.
I think based on all I’ve read, if you’re ordering new, T is the only sensible option, if used, S is best bang for the buck. The fact that GTS/S/T/Base all have the same engine is absolutely ridiculous. You can always swap brakes or suspension. One reason 997 GTS was so popular, was the fact that its engine was unique, or center lock wheels.
I find Porsche main line of cars seems to be a marketing practice, and that’s quite a shame.
I’ll see what kind of T I can find or would wait for next gen. I simply can’t stand the small brakes on the T, would have quickly swapped them out if I got one.
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I’ve run Laguna Seca 3 times in my S; the 1st time I ran standard pads and they faded 3-4 laps in. Next 2 times I ran DS2500’s which are a compromise pad but still better than the factory ones.