PORSCHE dealership and port delivery hold
#1
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PORSCHE dealership and port delivery hold
I talked with my salesman yesterday who advised of a just released notice of a hold on cars at the port and also cars at dealerships ready for delivery. Apparently this stop notice includes all models except for the Macan (or a specific model of the Macan). Estimated release of cars at the port(s) is not until April 2024. The issue is a component of a control module sourced from a denied/prohibited source. Anyone been notified about their car?? Not good news for those with built and undelivered cars or those in the pipeline for a build..
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#5
This is exactly what I suspected…
Is this a political issue (e.g. we wont allow your product into our country if it contains chips manufactured in X country)?
It cant be new emissions or safety regulations. […] The only thing that changes overnight is political policy.
It cant be new emissions or safety regulations. […] The only thing that changes overnight is political policy.
https://rennlist.com/forums/992/1123...l#post19257194
We can even guess which country this is, that would be on a “trade-ban” list and has the capacity and know-how to manufacture high volume chips.
Furthermore, I bet the current chips in our cars work perfectly fine. (Otherwise they would have failed QA at the factory).
Now we all have to wait for them to replace the working chips in our cars with other working chips, that are simply manufactured in a different country.
#6
Three Wheelin'
What a mess. And I doubt its an issue of functionality, its all just government interference and politics. How did they even know the cars had a "unlawful" chip, does the EPA inspect them? Too bad they aren't as diligent stopping importation of fentanyl into the country.
#7
Racer
This is a major screw-up at the plant level.
Last edited by Shambler; 02-04-2024 at 08:40 PM.
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#8
I agree. From the wording, my fear is, this is an Integrated Circuit, which is soldered onto a circuit board.
The offending component may look something like this. (Note: This is NOT a picture of the actual component).
Because the component is soldered, they will need to remove the entire circuit board, desolder the offending chip, insert and solder the new chip, and replace the circuit board into the car.
I do not think this is something they can do in the field.
This means they have to manufacture the entire “correct” circuit board at a factory, go out to the field, and replace the circuit board with a new one. I’m sure Porsche sources the circuit boards from a supplier. This means they need to get an extra shipment of “correct” circuit boards from their supplier.
They will probably return the offending circuit boards back to the supplier for refurbishment and reuse. (Another cheaper option is to reuse the offending circuit boards in vehicles being shipped to another country that does not have this embargo).
At issue is a small electronic component that is a part of a larger control unit, which will be replaced.
Because the component is soldered, they will need to remove the entire circuit board, desolder the offending chip, insert and solder the new chip, and replace the circuit board into the car.
I do not think this is something they can do in the field.
This means they have to manufacture the entire “correct” circuit board at a factory, go out to the field, and replace the circuit board with a new one. I’m sure Porsche sources the circuit boards from a supplier. This means they need to get an extra shipment of “correct” circuit boards from their supplier.
They will probably return the offending circuit boards back to the supplier for refurbishment and reuse. (Another cheaper option is to reuse the offending circuit boards in vehicles being shipped to another country that does not have this embargo).
#9
Racer
I agree. From the wording, my fear is, this is an Integrated Circuit, which is soldered onto a circuit board.
The offending component may look something like this. (Note: This is NOT a picture of the actual component).
Because the component is soldered, they will need to remove the entire circuit board, desolder the offending chip, insert and solder the new chip, and replace the circuit board into the car.
I do not think this is something they can do in the field.
This means they have to manufacture the entire “correct” circuit board at a factory, go out to the field, and replace the circuit board with a new one. I’m sure Porsche sources the circuit boards from a supplier. This means they need to get an extra shipment of “correct” circuit boards from their supplier.
They will probably return the offending circuit boards back to the supplier for refurbishment and reuse. (Another cheaper option is to reuse the offending circuit boards in vehicles being shipped to another country that does not have this embargo).
The offending component may look something like this. (Note: This is NOT a picture of the actual component).
Because the component is soldered, they will need to remove the entire circuit board, desolder the offending chip, insert and solder the new chip, and replace the circuit board into the car.
I do not think this is something they can do in the field.
This means they have to manufacture the entire “correct” circuit board at a factory, go out to the field, and replace the circuit board with a new one. I’m sure Porsche sources the circuit boards from a supplier. This means they need to get an extra shipment of “correct” circuit boards from their supplier.
They will probably return the offending circuit boards back to the supplier for refurbishment and reuse. (Another cheaper option is to reuse the offending circuit boards in vehicles being shipped to another country that does not have this embargo).
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#10
Man! I feel for you guys, this is ocd nightmare stuff.
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#11
Instructor
My delivery shows April now vs early March and my car is just hanging out at the warehouse LOL. What a **** show
My wifes 2024 Panamera same problem. Our sales person thinks up to November delay but can't say with certainty. Back to the covid days of no inventory.
My wifes 2024 Panamera same problem. Our sales person thinks up to November delay but can't say with certainty. Back to the covid days of no inventory.
Last edited by FileTitan; 02-05-2024 at 12:52 AM.
#12
It’s probably related to silica coming from an area of China known to use forced labor. It’s up to the company making the final import into the US to know where these items are coming from, even if it’s multiple suppliers deep. Procurement teams have to do a lot of investigation to determine their suppliers are fine. My company had to stop using a component from a supplier because of this. The issue came from a supplier 5 layers deep. The final component we used wasn’t even a chip.
US Bans Silica from China Region
US Bans Silica from China Region
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#14
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I referenced this in another thread but PCNA should compensate those waiting at port due to its obvious oversight. Last time it was free annual maintenance depending on the length of wait.
https://rennlist.com/forums/992/1123...l#post19260040
Good luck to those in limbo. Doesn’t sound like a quick or easy fix.
https://rennlist.com/forums/992/1123...l#post19260040
Good luck to those in limbo. Doesn’t sound like a quick or easy fix.