Originally Posted by jlegelis

So much fact-free FUD on this thread. Here’s my perspective: I got a great deal (no adm / CPO warranty) on a well maintained car that has performed flawlessly. I actually know *far* more about the 4k miles and history of this car than just about any other ‘pre owned’ car I’ve ever owned. I’m beyond satisfied with the purchase (the dealer is horrible, but that’s not the car’s fault), would definitely consider another one, and would recommend it as an option to anyone I know.

@remington fyi I negotiated the tire and brakes which were both worn but still ‘OK’ according to the CPO standards. Give that *I* went through a set of the ridiculously soft factory pads in a single DE day the ‘worn pads’ argument is an irrelevant measure of the cars overall ‘health’. Pads are a wear item, no?

Originally Posted by C.J. Ichiban

there is a company car auction monthly, the majority of the cars sold are Macans, Cayennes and Taycans that were driven by PCNA employees as part of their comp package as was noted above. The cars are usually 50 miles up to about 8,000- very low % of them will be over 10k miles.

Sometimes, other cars were press fleet, PECLA/PECATL or even EPA compliance testers. I actively shop this auction and can find some really good inventory for CPO stuff, just bought a 2023 Cayenne GTS from there a few weeks ago.

In general any of the PEC cars that we shop for at this auction already have clear bra on them, and they send them to us with new tires and usually new brake pads. The way they run the cars, the windshields are not torn up like a lot of track cars since when you do the PEC courses you're not in a big train of 5+ cars going through corners like a normal track day. I have no hesitation buying a car from this auction source assuming it's as represented in terms of condition...I try to buy stuff that is super clean.

Originally Posted by luscioman

About 18 months ago a local dealer had a nice S for sale with 6k miles. I checked carfax and it had a minor accident. I pressed my sa several times. I was first told it was a executive demo car. I asked more and more about the accident. Finally I got a repair invoice. The car was from the Atlanta experience hit a fence or something and the repair boll was $87,000. It was odd the invoice was not a local dealer. I took a hard pass on that car.

Originally Posted by tomtomtomtom

an executive car from 15 second on

Originally Posted by shustermeister

I did a search but had no luck finding a prior thread on this... Does anyone have information on these cars available at Porsche Dealers where they technically have had zero owners, as they are sold by PCNA to the dealer? My understanding is that some of these may be PEC cars that have had a "spirited" life on track, skidpads, wet driving exercises, etc. (a hard beginning to life, for sure); others may be press loaners for magazine and YouTube folks to test for articles/posts; others still may be driven by PCNA employees for a year as they travel around.
I am seeing a number of these cars whose CarFax first entry shows anywhere from several thousand to about ten thousand miles, and no initial title being issued except maybe to the selling dealer.
I'd love to get the forum's take on these cars, especially from folks who may have purchased one as CPO.
Thanks all! Love that this forum exists with Porschephiles galore!