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I just ran into this car. I was in my EV, driving window down next to it at about 25mph. No engine noises detected, just general car tire rolling noises. We were going about constant speed, so no electric motor whine noises from either acceleration or braking. Looking at the rear bumper, there are no visible or logical airflow openings for intercoolers, so I would think this car has an NA engine. Another indicator that this possibly a NA engine is how the rear spoiler surface is up flush against the two airflow openings around the central brake light. There's no significant air gap to feed air to intercoolers. And from a business case point of view, it would be expensive to have both turbos and electrification with the hybrid system. But hey, maybe Porsche has a case for a turbo engine and hybrid, but I doubt it. I only see one 'fuel' door, so it's likely not a plug-in hybrid.
This is interesting. My 2020 Jeep Wrangler has a hybrid 48 volt, 4 cylinder 2.0 turbo system that cannot be externally charged. That seems like what C&D and others say Porsche will add to most or all Carreras. I can't imagine the battery has enough for much of a range by itself but maybe this has a larger battery, and also more weight.
"Jeep's 48-volt battery pack works with the motor generator to create a seamless start/stop function; a short-duration torque addition to the engine crankshaft in particular driving conditions; and, brake energy regeneration to increase efficiency and responsiveness. When the engine is running, eTorque's motor generator unit delivers 48-volt current to a 430 watt-hour lithium-ion Nickel Manganese Cobalt (NMC)-Graphite battery. The battery pack includes a 3-kilowatt DC-to-DC converter. This holds the battery's charge and converts 48 volts to 12 volts so that power can be use to power Jeep Wrangler's accessories and charge its conventional 12-volt lead-acid battery. About the size of a small suitcase, the air-cooled battery pack is mounted to the interior rear wall of Jeep Wrangler's cabin. The battery pack's case is insulated to hush the noise generate by the dual cooling fans. Cooling air is then drawn from the vehicle interior and released through the built-in cabin exhausters. Because of its greater efficiency in extreme temperatures, both the 3.6L Pentastar V6 engine and the Turbocharged 2.0L I4 engine with Jeep eTorque technology will keep a traditional 12-volt starter motor, which is ideal for cold starts and the initial start of the day."
We knew it wasn't going to be a plug-in - too heavy. The mild hybrid setup isn't much really, and the car has no electric only range with a mild hybrid anyway. I thought the GTS was going to get the 3.6, but not be a full hybrid, that the full hybrid will actually be a new trim level called the THEV and sit above the GTS.
We knew it wasn't going to be a plug-in - too heavy. The mild hybrid setup isn't much really, and the car has no electric only range with a mild hybrid anyway. I thought the GTS was going to get the 3.6, but not be a full hybrid, that the full hybrid will actually be a new trim level called the THEV and sit above the GTS.
Yeah, agree on basic hybrid like a Prius/Camry. I can't see a NA 3.6L being the only power source because it won't have enough torque. The current base 992 with the 3.0L turbo engine makes 332 lb-ft. The 4.0L in the GT4 only makes 309 lb-ft and the GT3 347 lb-ft, both quite a ways up the rev range. Assuming a 3.6L is used in the Carrera, it'll be down about 10% torque to the GT4 engine assuming the 3.6L isn't going to be a 9k rpm screamer because of cost. So pairing the electric motor in the hybrid system will fill in the missing torque compared to the existing 3.0L turbo engine while still having the 'good' sounding NA engine. My guesses at least.
Last edited by spdracerut; 03-23-2024 at 02:22 AM.
03-22-2024, 06:38 PM
992 hybrid likely spotted
