Oil level - leave it alone?
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Oil level - leave it alone?
I had an oil change done and based on what I've read here, most would consider this more oil than necessary. Top of the twist and in the top part of the gauge when warm, idling on level ground.
No obvious smoke. Seems to drive well and I've seen no leaks (though I do have the engine tray on, so not totally sure there).
Can I just leave this alone, or do I need to go to the trouble of having it siphoned?
No obvious smoke. Seems to drive well and I've seen no leaks (though I do have the engine tray on, so not totally sure there).
Can I just leave this alone, or do I need to go to the trouble of having it siphoned?
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Take another pic when your Temp Gauge hits half way. Your engine isn’t warmed up yet and betting your Oil Level will be full top position once warmed up.
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Engine temps don't really seem to get much more than a click above 8 o'clock, but here's another pic.
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Temp should sit half way when oil is up to Temp..... let it idle till it does. Takes a good while for all 12 quarts to heat up! Especially if you are in a colder climate. So as long as you are driving the oil level needle should be pegged at the bottom while driving then rise at idle at a light or stop sign. Overfill will burn off but SAI problems may be in your future if you continue overfilling.
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I'm no authority, for sure, but even since owning early 911s, I've always kept it about halfway on the dipstick. My early oil gauges never made much since to me, so I never even paid attention to them. On the 993, mine's never above half.
According to info on here, keeping it full may lead to the SAI problems.
According to info on here, keeping it full may lead to the SAI problems.
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Temp should sit half way when oil is up to Temp..... let it idle till it does. Takes a good while for all 12 quarts to heat up! Especially if you are in a colder climate. So as long as you are driving the oil level needle should be pegged at the bottom while driving then rise at idle at a light or stop sign.
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Temp should sit half way when oil is up to Temp..... let it idle till it does. Takes a good while for all 12 quarts to heat up! Especially if you are in a colder climate. So as long as you are driving the oil level needle should be pegged at the bottom while driving then rise at idle at a light or stop sign.
If OIL LEVEL needle is above 3 o'clock the car is overfilled.........if the gauge can be trusted))))))
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Temp should sit half way when oil is up to Temp..... let it idle till it does. Takes a good while for all 12 quarts to heat up! Especially if you are in a colder climate. So as long as you are driving the oil level needle should be pegged at the bottom while driving then rise at idle at a light or stop sign.
If OIL LEVEL needle is above 3 o'clock the car is overfilled.........if the gauge can be trusted))))))
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Oil LEVEL needle, when car is all warmed up, generally when auxiliary fan starts, would be at 3 o'clock - correct? and with OIL temperature needle at 9 o/clock........that is what I have always been told........the needles actually line up
If OIL LEVEL needle is above 3 o'clock the car is overfilled.........if the gauge can be trusted))))))
If OIL LEVEL needle is above 3 o'clock the car is overfilled.........if the gauge can be trusted))))))
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Since you're asking, yes, IMHO, you need to lose some oil to bring the gauge and dipstick in the middle range or slightly below. Either siphon via the fill tube or drop either oil filter canister. Next time, warn whoever is doing your oil changes to stop one quart shy and give you the quart to adjust up if needed.
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Since you're asking, yes, IMHO, you need to lose some oil to bring the gauge and dipstick in the middle range or slightly below. Either siphon via the fill tube or drop either oil filter canister. Next time, warn whoever is doing your oil changes to stop one quart shy and give you the quart to adjust up if needed.
Ok. I'm guessing lower oil capacity is ideal, but shouldn't actually cause harm if the oil is within the top of the twist on the dipstick? Not exactly sure when I'm going to have time to get around doing this.
What a pain in the @ss. It's so annoying to have to micro manage everything.
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It probably won't cause immediate harm, but the excess oil gets sucked into the intake, and coats it with a film of oil. You may later see some seepage from "connecting piece", bottom center of the intake distributor if you shine a flashlight down there. Some authorities say that overfilling the oil contributes to SAI problems. You can slurp out the excess quickly with a rubber bulb syringe and a length of tubing via the oil filler neck.
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That is a nice looking dash...
Oil looks high to me, assuming the gauge is calibrated... don't forget too that once the oil thermostat opens the temp gauge can drop. Feel the front fender to see if those lines to the front cooler are flowing.
Oil looks high to me, assuming the gauge is calibrated... don't forget too that once the oil thermostat opens the temp gauge can drop. Feel the front fender to see if those lines to the front cooler are flowing.
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Oil temp yes 9 o’clock but OIL Level can vary based on calibration so always rely on your dipstick! Make sure you are on level ground as well and car up to temp 9 o’clock and running when checking dipstick.
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Well, interesting for me......I have never checked my oil via the dipstick in over 20 years of ownership and 65,000 miles because I understand it is a PITA to re-insert.
I have relied on the gauge which has functioned consistently well over the years.
I have always topped up the oil when the auxiliary fan comes on at the 9'oclock temp needle position and topped up oil to 3'oclock level while car is running.....
I change my oil and filters at least every year with Mobil One 15-50W.............again interesting.......the frequent oil changes have probably prevented me from running low on oil, but then again the car is only driven a mx of 3k miles a year on average..........
Oil pressure functions the same as the day I bought it at idle and at speed........have not had a compression test.................engine runs great...........
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Well, interesting for me......I have never checked my oil via the dipstick in over 20 years of ownership and 65,000 miles because I understand it is a PITA to re-insert.
I have relied on the gauge which has functioned consistently well over the years.
I have always topped up the oil when the auxiliary fan comes on at the 9'oclock temp needle position and topped up oil to 3'oclock level while car is running.....
I change my oil and filters at least every year with Mobil One 15-50W.............again interesting.......the frequent oil changes have probably prevented me from running low on oil, but then again the car is only driven a mx of 3k miles a year on average..........
Oil pressure functions the same as the day I bought it at idle and at speed........have not had a compression test.................engine runs great...........